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Towed my 06 Suzuki Grand Vitari about 2 hours this AM...and when I got to my destination, the toad battery was dead. I am assuming, that I didn't turn the key from "on" to "acc"...but then I suffer from CRFT!!!
I need the collective wisdom of the IRV2 mechanically inclined...vs us non-mechanically inclined, "pay someone to do it" types....
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12-17-2007, 03:35 PM
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Towed my 06 Suzuki Grand Vitari about 2 hours this AM...and when I got to my destination, the toad battery was dead. I am assuming, that I didn't turn the key from "on" to "acc"...but then I suffer from CRFT!!!
I need the collective wisdom of the IRV2 mechanically inclined...vs us non-mechanically inclined, "pay someone to do it" types....
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12-17-2007, 04:18 PM
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I can't help with the diagnosis on why your toad battery died, but you could consider adding a toad charging system to keep the toad battery charged while driving. Here is a Corrected Link on the product.
Edit: The link should be correct now.
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12-17-2007, 04:34 PM
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Pusherman:
Are you talking about the Battery Minder? Probably a good idea. This is the second time it has happened to me, and all I can think of is I didn't turn the key from on to acc...
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12-17-2007, 05:43 PM
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Don,
Check the link in your post. It does not lead to anything to do with batteries.
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12-18-2007, 02:28 AM
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Any vehicle should tow for 2 hours. I think there is a large draw somewhere. Maybe a bad Battery
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12-18-2007, 05:17 AM
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Here is the correct link to the Toad Charge pusherman mentioned.
The Battery Brain automatic disconnect switch would be an alternative solution.
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12-18-2007, 06:19 AM
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Gary, thanks for the fix to the link to the Toad Charge. I corrected the link in the original post.
Bruce, the other thing to check is the condition of your toad battery. You can take it to any battery shop and have it tested for free. It may be weak, as I also don't understand why it should discharge so rapidly.
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12-18-2007, 05:42 PM
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I was at an rv dealer today with a friend who was having his new toad wired and the techs explained that his purchase of the 10 amp Toad Charge was unnecessary as his coach was already wired for charging through the 7 pin plug.
When I was at Newmar recently, they explained the same thing to me. Many of the service centers apparently do not wire up the vehicles for charging the toad battery from the coach, even when the rv has that capability built in.
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12-18-2007, 06:29 PM
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When we recently had a Roadmaster Sterling towbar / hitch and US Gear Unified Brake System installed, the RV center changed out the 7 pin to a 6 pin plug. What did they take away from us? Is it a big deal? Sorry, I don't understand all this - YET.
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12-18-2007, 06:35 PM
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I beleive that the only thing that would have caused the toad battery to discharge is that I didn't turn it to acc, and left it "on"...it's the only thing I can figure...I towed it for two days prior for 8 hours each without a problem...this was only a two hour trip and the battery was dead. You gotta love a mystery
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12-20-2007, 01:34 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I beleive that the only thing that would have caused the toad battery to discharge is that I didn't turn it to acc, and left it "on" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sounds like its time to start using a checklist
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12-20-2007, 01:47 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GoneFishin:
When we recently had a Roadmaster Sterling towbar / hitch and US Gear Unified Brake System installed, the RV center changed out the 7 pin to a 6 pin plug. What did they take away from us? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Most likely what they took away is the line for an electric brake controller which is typically used on travel trailers. Electric brake controllers are not used on TOAD's. Another line in a 7-pin connector is 'battery'. If you don't use any type of TOAD charge, don't need that one either.
You could test this by checking each pin with a 12V electrical tester (with light bulb), ignition 'on', but no lights on (tail lights or L/R turn/stop). If one of the pins lights up, it's 12V power.
I don't know how a US Gear system activates your brakes in the toad, but I assume there is some type of umbilical connection between your coach and TOAD. It may be a separate connection.
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12-20-2007, 02:41 PM
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