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Old 06-02-2007, 06:05 PM   #1
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Have a 30' Gulfstream, 8.1L, 20700 GVWR. Currently tow a Saturn Vue (3500#'s) with a full Blue Ox system. Looking to get a pickup to carry my Gold Wing (900#'s), probably a Chevy Silverado 4x4 with an 8' bed. Blue Ox makes an auto loader ramp.

Question - towing capacity. Can't figure it out. The truck is approx 4800#'s and then the bike. Too much with the GVWR? Have not weighed the unit - front, back, total.

Advice please. And thanks in advance.
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:05 PM   #2
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Have a 30' Gulfstream, 8.1L, 20700 GVWR. Currently tow a Saturn Vue (3500#'s) with a full Blue Ox system. Looking to get a pickup to carry my Gold Wing (900#'s), probably a Chevy Silverado 4x4 with an 8' bed. Blue Ox makes an auto loader ramp.

Question - towing capacity. Can't figure it out. The truck is approx 4800#'s and then the bike. Too much with the GVWR? Have not weighed the unit - front, back, total.

Advice please. And thanks in advance.
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Old 06-02-2007, 07:54 PM   #3
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novatz,

Welcome to irv2.

I'm no expert but here's my understanding.

GCWR - GVWR = Towing capacity. However it could be less if your hitch capacity is less than the figure you just calculated. For example, my GCWR is 30,000 and my GVWR is 24,000 thus a towing capacity of 6,000. BUT my hitch is a Class III rated for only 5,000. Even if my MH's actual weight was only 23,000 now giving me a 7,000lb difference, it would still be limited to the hitch capacity of 5,000.

You could upgrade the hitch but you need to make sure the frame is rated for any increase.

You didn't say what class hitch you have but if your hitch is a class III rated for 5,000 you would exceed that amount with the gold wing in the back of the truck.
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:37 AM   #4
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I've got an "07" Silverado that is two weeks old. Empty weight is 5400 lbs. With a full load of fuel , etc plus a 900 lb Gold Wing you are going to be pulling very heavy.
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novatz, welcome to irv2.

It sounds like you have a Workhorse W20 chassis, which has a GVWR of 20,700 lbs. and a GVCWR of 26,000 lbs. This yields a towing capacity of 5,300 lbs. if you motor home is loaded up to the maximum weight of 20,700 lbs. The towing capacity could be more if the motor home is not fully loaded; BUT, as Bob Russo says, the tow capacity really depends on the rating of the hitch the motor home manufacturer installed. Like Bob, we have a W24 with a theoretical minimum towing capacity of 6,000 lbs. we but are limited by a hitch rated for only 5,000 lbs. My guess is that you also have a Class III hitch.

Also, as Bubba says, there is a good chance the truck really weighs more than 4,800 lbs. (especially with the Gold Wing in the bed). Published vehicle weights tend to be the dry weight for base models. For example, you quote a weight for a Saturn Vue of 3,500 lbs. Our 2006 Saturn Vue V6 AWD with fuel and some personal "stuff" in it weighs 4,080 by certified CAT scale.

Blue Ox makes several carriers that can be mounted on the rear of a motor home. However, the carriers CAN NOT be used if the motor home has welded-on frame extensions and you CAN NOT exceed the rear axle capacity of the motor home. Click HERE for calculations on rear axle weight and an explanation of the welded frame extension limitation. With only a 30' motor home you may not have frame extensions. IF the carrier works out, you may be able to carry the Gold Wing and tow the Vue. Otherwise you may have to choose between towing the Vue or towing the Gold Wing on a small trailer.
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My Colorado 4x4 Crew weighs 4200 and might be long enough to hold a Goldwing. The extended and the regular cab have a longer bed..... and it's a nice little truck.
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:23 PM   #7
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Great info - thanks to all. Need to check my hitch. Calculation for the rear mounted lift throws me off - with extension beyond the rear axle it is the equivalent of adding almost 2500# between the bike, lift and overhang. Will check out the Colorado cab issue.
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