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08-08-2016, 06:14 PM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by harleyjt
I won't buy ANYTHING from Harbor Freight. Cheap chinese junk.
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08-08-2016, 06:30 PM
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#16
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyjt
I won't buy ANYTHING from Harbor Freight. Cheap chinese junk.
jt
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Not me.
I always buy my zip ties there.
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2014 40G Fleetwood Discovery
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08-08-2016, 06:50 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Kitts Hill, OH
Posts: 2,252
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr4Film
Expensive lesson!
Harbor Freight products are Chinese Bombs, use once if it works that long and throw away.
Buy American buy quality.
Dr4Film ----- Richard
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I tend to agree. and I don't buy anything from Reese, Curt, (Many of the others)....... for the same reason.
I see the Weight Distributing hitches from One of the major Hitch companys sell installed every week sold for $409. Made in China. It looks to be a twin to what HF sells for half that. A real twin right down to the Styrofoam and cardboard used in the packaging.
Many hitch parts I make myself. I am about to make a towbar for the Jeep so I can flat tow it and make a hitch hauler for my honda Scooter for next years trip.
Quote:
Originally Posted by chindog
Not me.
I always buy my zip ties there.
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I buy some things like there as well.
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08-08-2016, 07:00 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 37,725
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Easyrider
I looked at many different drop down receivers before purchasing a Roadmaster which is rated for 10000lbs. Most of what I found on the internet were rated for 3500lbs. The Roadmaster costs considerably more than the others, but you get what you pay for. I would not attempt to tow a car with a 3500lb. rated drop receiver.
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That's what our RoadMaster drop is rated for also. The older Sterling we have is rated for 6 000 and is the "weakest" link as the receiver and rig is rated for 15,000.
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2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft, HWH Active Air
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RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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08-08-2016, 10:47 PM
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake Wales, FL
Posts: 3,113
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Do Not Buy Receivers from Harbor Freight
So when you set up your toad you should do a couple of things. You need a break away switch on your supplemental brake system. You also need to set the break away cable to pull the switch key 6" before the end of the cables. If your tow bar breaks you are going to count on your break away switch to trigger your brake system. You want the brakes ON before the cables snap. That way you are dragging an anchor instead of a toad that is acting like a pendulum, so you can make a controlled stop, a 4,000+ pound pendulum is going to make it VERY hard to control your coach. If the brakes on the toad are not on you are going to use the rear of your coach as a big, expensive bumper with your toad slamming into it (possibly riding up the tow bar) trying to get stopped. That is going to damage not only your toad but your MH and make a controlled stop extremely hard. If you have a DP with a rear radiator you are really going to be upset. Most people have their break away cable set to pull the key when the cables break, at that point it is too late, particularly since most of us are using either 6 or 10,000 pound cables and with no brakes you could drag that toad miles before stopping, swinging from side to side!
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2005 38' FDTS Alpine Limited, 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
Lake Wales, FL
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08-08-2016, 11:25 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DrDaveMA
So when you set up your toad you should do a couple of things. You need a break away switch on your supplemental brake system. You also need to set the break away cable to pull the switch key 6" before the end of the cables. If your tow bar breaks you are going to count on your break away switch to trigger your brake system. You want the brakes ON before the cables snap. That way you are dragging an anchor instead of a toad that is acting like a pendulum, so you can make a controlled stop, a 4,000+ pound pendulum is going to make it VERY hard to control your coach. If the brakes on the toad are not on you are going to use the rear of your coach as a big, expensive bumper with your toad slamming into it (possibly riding up the tow bar) trying to get stopped. That is going to damage not only your toad but your MH and make a controlled stop extremely hard. If you have a DP with a rear radiator you are really going to be upset. Most people have their break away cable set to pull the key when the cables break, at that point it is too late, particularly since most of us are using either 6 or 10,000 pound cables and with no brakes you could drag that toad miles before stopping, swinging from side to side!
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Thanks Dave,
That info was a real eye opener for me, never thought of the need to set up that way before.
Now I'm wondering if the OP used a receiver that was of too low a rating???
DTW
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2012 Fleetwood Providence 42P Class A/DP
Spartan Chassis, 8.9L Cummins 450HP
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08-09-2016, 05:01 AM
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#21
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Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Port Orange, Fl
Posts: 884
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ7365
Any pictures of the drop down receiver?
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Am I missing something here on this topic. Posters are buying the receiver, don't most if not all motorhomes come with receivers???
At first I was thinking drop down and my mind though dropdown as to ballmount. Thinking who would connect a toad with that. Then i read again and its the coach mounted receiver.
A receiver on the MH is something that MUST be installed, welded and done by a professional.
As always I get awesome information here. Going to go shorten my breakaway line.
2009 Thor Magellan 36R, Ford ranger w/rampage lift in bed for Harley
Roadmaster falcon2 tow bar, RVI brake
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08-09-2016, 05:56 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,536
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekanic
I tend to agree. and I don't buy anything from Reese, Curt, (Many of the others)....... for the same reason.
I see the Weight Distributing hitches from One of the major Hitch companys sell installed every week sold for $409. Made in China. It looks to be a twin to what HF sells for half that. A real twin right down to the Styrofoam and cardboard used in the packaging.
Many hitch parts I make myself. I am about to make a towbar for the Jeep so I can flat tow it and make a hitch hauler for my honda Scooter for next years trip.
I buy some things like there as well.
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I thought Reese was a good product. If not, what is "the best"?
2016 Coachmen Mirada 35 BH
2015 Jeep Roadmaster AT. tow bar with RVI2 supplemental.
Taking in the sight wherever our Trolley takes us...
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08-09-2016, 06:21 AM
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#23
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Tiffin Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Byhalia, MS
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WDW
I thought Reese was a good product. If not, what is "the best"?
2016 Coachmen Mirada 35 BH
2015 Jeep Roadmaster AT. tow bar with RVI2 supplemental.
Taking in the sight wherever our Trolley takes us...
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I did too. Have used Reese products for a number of years.
jt
2005 Newmar Kountry Star gas 3742, Workhorse 8.1L w/Allison 5 speed.
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2005 Newmar Kountry Star Gas (Sold)
2022 JL Wrangler 4xe or 2017 Harley Ultra in tow
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08-09-2016, 06:30 AM
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#24
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Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Varies Depending on The Weather
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I sold a Curt equalizing hitch that came with my cargo trailer when I purchased the trailer second hand from Craigslist. I always had problems with that hitch not staying in the correct position that it was set at.
I then purchased an Andersen 14K Hitch with a combo ball, 2 inch and 2 5/16 inch. This hitch has been one of the best solid hitches that I have owned.
I highly recommend it.
Dr4Film ----- Richard
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08-09-2016, 06:50 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Northeast Georgia
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Bruce91, I believe this is what he is referring to.
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08-09-2016, 07:06 AM
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Registered User
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Varies Depending on The Weather
Posts: 8,517
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If you want an excellent drop hitch look at the Andersen units.
They are called Rapid Hitches.
Dr4Film ----- Richard
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08-09-2016, 07:10 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bruce91
Am I missing something here on this topic. Posters are buying the receiver, don't most if not all motorhomes come with receivers???
At first I was thinking drop down and my mind though dropdown as to ballmount. Thinking who would connect a toad with that. Then i read again and its the coach mounted receiver.
A receiver on the MH is something that MUST be installed, welded and done by a professional.
As always I get awesome information here. Going to go shorten my breakaway line.
2009 Thor Magellan 36R, Ford ranger w/rampage lift in bed for Harley
Roadmaster falcon2 tow bar, RVI brake
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The part that is mounted on the vehicle is a Hitch. That part that's slides into the hitch is a receiver.
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2010 Phaeton 40QTH on a PG Chassis.
2017 Lincoln MKX.
Air Force One brake system and Blue OX Towbar.
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08-09-2016, 07:36 AM
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#28
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Tiffin Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Byhalia, MS
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 69Stang
The part that is mounted on the vehicle is a Hitch. That part that's slides into the hitch is a receiver.
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Respectfully I think that's backwards. The receiver hitch is what's on the vehicle. The ball mount slides into the receiver which is the square tubing on the receiver hitch.
jt
2005 Newmar Kountry Star gas 3742, Workhorse 8.1L w/Allison 5 speed.
Sent from my iPhone using iRV2 - RV Forum
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2005 Newmar Kountry Star Gas (Sold)
2022 JL Wrangler 4xe or 2017 Harley Ultra in tow
JT, Em & the boys, Kong & Baxter (rescued grey tabbies)
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