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08-23-2014, 10:54 AM
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Do we need brake controllers ?
I"ve got a 39ft Fleetwood revolution that I will be pulling a 24 ft enclosed trailer. So my question is do we really need an electronic brake controller installed ? Brakes on trailer are self adjusting..
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08-23-2014, 11:03 AM
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OMG.......YES !!!
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08-23-2014, 11:06 AM
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OMG.......YES !!!
Dr4Film ----- Richard
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Ok,, care to elaborate ? The brakes do work without one and there is certainly plenty of brake in the RV even if the trailer had no brakes ( I'm expecting to tow about 7k lbs )
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08-23-2014, 11:19 AM
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The trailer brakes won't work without a controller...the coach brakes will work and will need to stop both the coach and the trailer - put your 7,000# trailer on the back of your motor home and try a panic stop. You will see the need right away!
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08-23-2014, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Timay
The trailer brakes won't work without a controller...the coach brakes will work and will need to stop both the coach and the trailer - put your 7,000# trailer on the back of your motor home and try a panic stop. You will see the need right away!
Tim
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interesting,, I thought that with the circular wiring connector the brakes worked but the controller allowed the adjusting of when and how hard they came on (that's what they told me at the trailer factory when I picked it up)
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08-23-2014, 11:27 AM
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Ok,, care to elaborate ? The brakes do work without one and there is certainly plenty of brake in the RV even if the trailer had no brakes ( I'm expecting to tow about 7k lbs )
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Maybe you can elaborate for us how the brakes work without a controller. I'd be interested to hear.
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08-23-2014, 11:29 AM
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OK, going to need a whole lot of info on your trailer, because;
1, if it has electric brakes you need a controller. No ifs, ands, or buts!
2, if it has surge brakes, ( self contained with fluid reservoir on the hitch )I've never heard of those trailers, equipped with surge brakes, being self adjusting. 
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08-23-2014, 11:36 AM
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interesting,, I thought that with the circular wiring connector the brakes worked but the controller allowed the adjusting of when and how hard they came on (that's what they told me at the trailer factory when I picked it up)
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So someone sold you a 7,000# trailer and told you the brakes( electric ) would work without a controller.
Trailer info please , because if such a system exists , there are a bunch of us here in the forums who've never heard of it. 
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08-23-2014, 11:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9dreizig
Ok,, care to elaborate ? The brakes do work without one and there is certainly plenty of brake in the RV even if the trailer had no brakes ( I'm expecting to tow about 7k lbs )
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9dreizig
interesting,, I thought that with the circular wiring connector the brakes worked but the controller allowed the adjusting of when and how hard they came on (that's what they told me at the trailer factory when I picked it up)
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Maybe you can elaborate for us how the brakes work without a controller. I'd be interested to hear.
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Curious minds here would like to know what YOU know about your trailer brakes that is different than everyone else here that uses a cargo trailer with electric brakes.
Surge Brakes are ONLY used on trailers UP TO a specific weight limit. I think 7000 lbs is WELL over that limit.
Dr4Film ----- Richard
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08-23-2014, 11:39 AM
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OK, another question , did you pick this trailer up , with a pick up truck ( newer with built-in controller) and are now transferring it over to your coach ?
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08-23-2014, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 9dreizig
I"ve got a 39ft Fleetwood revolution that I will be pulling a 24 ft enclosed trailer. So my question is do we really need an electronic brake controller installed ? Brakes on trailer are self adjusting..
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The brakes on my 26 foot Pace Cargo Trailer are Self-Adjusting also, BUT they are also ELECTRIC brakes which require an Electronic Brake Controller to activate the electric brake part.
BTW, my tandem axles are 6000 lb each and I carry about 11,000 lbs total. Trailer is about 4800 lbs by itself.
Prodigy P2 is what I installed.
Dr4Film ----- Richard
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08-23-2014, 11:53 AM
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08-23-2014, 11:57 AM
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Prodigy P2 is my controller too. Works well!
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08-23-2014, 11:59 AM
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the controller allowed the adjusting of when and how hard they came on )
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The correct statement would be ;
The controller determines when the brakes come on and is adjustable to determine how hard.
JMHO: I can't believe they let you move the trailer off the lot without a working controller, the liability factor alone should have made them insist you have one.
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