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Old 01-06-2013, 09:58 PM   #15
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If you only need 2 seats, I'd suggest you consider a Smart Car. Only 1840 pounds, about $14,000 for a brand new Pure (base model), tows 4 down, 40 mpg and the body is plastic so no rock chips in the paint. And, it's really fun to drive.
X2 I also tow the smart we have the convertable. very easy car for older people to get into you do not sit on the ground like many small cars. The transmissions is an automated manual transmission so no need to stop and run after a few hours of towing. A lot of fun to drive.
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X2 I also tow the smart we have the convertable. very easy car for older people to get into you do not sit on the ground like many small cars. The transmissions is an automated manual transmission so no need to stop and run after a few hours of towing. A lot of fun to drive.
Each to their own choices and risks.

I've seen Smart Cars, etc totalled, folks with severe injuries, in what would have been a fender bender for anything more substantial.
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Each to their own choices and risks.

I've seen Smart Cars, etc totalled, folks with severe injuries, in what would have been a fender bender for anything more substantial.
That is a confusing statement for me. The last full crash done on the Smart in 2008 gave it 5 stars. My insurance rates are VERY low due in part to the Tridion safety cell and the 8 airbags. I have seen videos of high speed crashes and the passenger compartment remains intact.
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Just went from towing my Toyota 4X4 pickup to a 2011 Chev HHR as my wife could no longer climb into the truck. Only mod needed other than the tow bar/base plate was to modify a fuse. Really miss where I could take the truck but the HHR pulls quite nicely.

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That is a confusing statement for me. The last full crash done on the Smart in 2008 gave it 5 stars. My insurance rates are VERY low due in part to the Tridion safety cell and the 8 airbags. I have seen videos of high speed crashes and the passenger compartment remains intact.
Tests and reality often differ. I only know what I saw.


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There are just 2 of us. We did the 2 wheelers, 2-seater cars etc. It was great great fun! Thrilling, actually. But we moved on to other adventures. A road is only a road unless......

We have a Wrangler now. It is wonderful to drive! And 21mpg is an acceptable part of the price of our new lifestyle. It is our toad, and superb for that.

We go to so many places most cant or wont, and see wildlife and scenery average tourists cant even dream of. We had quite enough of the madding crowds.

And when grandkids are with us, we feel good that the risks to them are minimum.

The Wrangler is versatile and safe. And heavy.

Be safe out there folks, and Happy trails!
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We have a Wrangler now.

And when grandkids are with us, we feel good that the risks to them are minimum.

The Wrangler is versatile and safe. And heavy.

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The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety rates the Wrangler POOR for side impact, and MARGINAL for rear impact. How exactly is that protecting your grandkids?
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X3 on the Honda Fit. We were in the process of buying a 2013 and looked in the owners manual to be safe. The 2013 manual very clearly said NOT to tow 4 down. The dealer had a couple of new 2012s left and the manual in 2012 gave all the instructions to tow behind a motor home. They were a little surprised also. The CRV can also be towed 4 down. We looked at the manual for 2012 and 2013 and it is still OK. We already have a Honda Crosstour and didn't need the extra weight, or $$$$ for the CRV, so we went with the 2012 Fit. My wife drives it all the time at home. 30+ MPG around town.
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I think I could win any argument between my 4000 lbs against an 1800 lb smart car.
You know. Mass, velocity, inertia.
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