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Old 06-09-2016, 03:38 AM   #1
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Flat Tow 2001 F150 5.4L XLT Crew Cab 2WD

How many miles and how fast (MPH) can I flat tow a 2WD F150 while engine is running and transmission in neutral?
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Old 06-09-2016, 06:40 AM   #2
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Not sure about time and speed.

You might consider some type of alarm or light to indicate that the F150 engine is running.

i.e. maybe add a oil pressure switch or a vacuum switch on the F150 and run a wire to a light on the MH dash that turns on if the F150 loses oil pressure or vacuum.
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And off of the switch I would want a alarm or buzzer to get my attention, I have pulled 2 WD autos and trucks to the auto auction before with out a problem by letting the engine idle also we had a member on the Monicoers forum that towed a Lincoln town car from Canada to Florida and back by that method.
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Will it make any problems for the steering with it running ?
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Note: above when we were towing to the auto auction we were towing on a dolly.
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How many miles and how fast (MPH) can I flat tow a 2WD F150 while engine is running and transmission in neutral?

Why would you do such a DUMB thing in the first place.

Let me know where you are so I come and get me truck with the keys in it running and ready to go.
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I suspect leaving the keys in the ignition does expose you to a theft risk.

However, many people with toads do it every day, i.e. leave the keys in the ignition to unlock the steering column to flat tow. Also, some dollys (Acme dolly) require the steering column to be unlocked so the front wheels can turn.
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Why would you do such a DUMB thing in the first place.

Let me know where you are so I come and get me truck with the keys in it running and ready to go.
What Walter is talking about is done by quite a few Rvers , we had one member of another Monaco forum that towed a Lincon town car from Canaba to Florida and back every year,
I don't think I would ever call anyone dumb for asking a question.
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I've considered flat towing with the engine running myself. . If someone on this forum wants to give me a base plate for my Camry, I'd do this in a heartbeat. (we like our Camry)

I don't think there would be a limit to speed or miles, as long as the toad engine is running.

Because the consequences of the engine not running are so sever, safeguards need to be in place to make sure the engine is running.

IDEA - I wonder if a blue tooth or WiFi OBDII plugged into the toad, and an app running on droid would work..
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What Walter is talking about is done by quite a few Rvers , we had one member of another Monaco forum that towed a Lincon town car from Canaba to Florida and back every year,
I don't think I would ever call anyone dumb for asking a question.
I said Walter but ment Starsun!

Waiter have a look on hitchtrader.com you might find one.
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I've considered flat towing with the engine running myself. . If someone on this forum wants to give me a base plate for my Camry, I'd do this in a heartbeat. (we like our Camry)

I don't think there would be a limit to speed or miles, as long as the toad engine is running.

Because the consequences of the engine not running are so sever, safeguards need to be in place to make sure the engine is running.

IDEA - I wonder if a blue tooth or WiFi OBDII plugged into the toad, and an app running on droid would work..
Ok, I'm back from Yellowstone to Southern California. Did Flat tow the F150 from Los Angeles to YellowStone and back with the engine running and transmission on neutral. I put a baby monitor on the driver seat headrest tied by a bungie cord. I was able to monitor the RPM and other dials on the truck dash from my coach. After I got back, Remco sent me the upgraded drive-shaft disconnect hopefully with the correct slip yoke (I will soon find out next week when I do the install). Yes I did damage the slip yoke and bushing in the transmission tail housing. I replaced the bushing, seal and had to smooth out the slip yoke damage (scored lines or grooves on shaft). I did the work myself, it took me 2 hours and it cost me about $8 for parts for the bushing and the rubber seal. The F150 transmission is okay though and I'm able to drive the truck to work.

Conclusion from my experience showed me that the transmission lubrication pump running the engine idle for 2500 miles does not send enough lubricant to the tail housing where the slip-yoke is turning, hence it will damage the bushing and slip-yoke shaft. Even though the mechanics and the tow bar owner stated it should be okay, I would not recommend it on such a long trip.

Hope my experience helps someone else.
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Will it make any problems for the steering with it running ?
The steering worked just fine even on soft gravel, the steering never gave me any problems.
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Not sure about time and speed.

You might consider some type of alarm or light to indicate that the F150 engine is running.

i.e. maybe add a oil pressure switch or a vacuum switch on the F150 and run a wire to a light on the MH dash that turns on if the F150 loses oil pressure or vacuum.
I used a baby monitor and was able to see the RPM gauge from the coach all the time, even in the dark. The monitor had an IR LED for night viewing.
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Ok, I'm back from Yellowstone to Southern California. Did Flat tow the F150 from Los Angeles to YellowStone and back with the engine running and transmission on neutral. I put a baby monitor on the driver seat headrest tied by a bungie cord. I was able to monitor the RPM and other dials on the truck dash from my coach. After I got back, Remco sent me the upgraded drive-shaft disconnect hopefully with the correct slip yoke (I will soon find out next week when I do the install). Yes I did damage the slip yoke and bushing in the transmission tail housing. I replaced the bushing, seal and had to smooth out the slip yoke damage (scored lines or grooves on shaft). I did the work myself, it took me 2 hours and it cost me about $8 for parts for the bushing and the rubber seal. The F150 transmission is okay though and I'm able to drive the truck to work.

Conclusion from my experience showed me that the transmission lubrication pump running the engine idle for 2500 miles does not send enough lubricant to the tail housing where the slip-yoke is turning, hence it will damage the bushing and slip-yoke shaft. Even though the mechanics and the tow bar owner stated it should be okay, I would not recommend it on such a long trip.

Hope my experience helps someone else.
not to derail the thread, but wouldn't of been easier, and better for your F150 just to disconnect the drive shaft and put it in the bed of the truck, yeah you would of lost some tranny fluid, but it wouldn't of been turning anyways
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