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Old 12-07-2012, 02:04 PM   #15
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OK I heard you all and did what I should have done in the first place. I put the spare tire for the MH and a half tank of fuel in the truck. Went and had it weighted. I do not like the answer but will have to live with it. It weighted 6020 lbs.
Anybody want to buy a nice truck? Tried to kill two birds with one stone but only killed one.
Thanks to all for your opinions.
I'm sorry if I sounded a bit harsh. I know that feeling too. My MH had a sticker CCC of 1602# but after my first weighing it came in closer to 1500#. I'm now in the process of selling/trading it to upgrade to a DP for more CCC for when we go FT in about 18 months. It could cost me as much as $10K in lost trade in value to fix that mistake.

Great coach for part time but not quite as capable as we ASSUMED it was for FT use. Sigh...anybody want to by a nice gas MH?
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:14 PM   #16
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The OP does't appear to actually know the real weight of the toad. ...

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I now will be towing a 2055 Chey Crew Cab with a curb weight of 5299

Sounds like he knows what he is going to tow to me.....

You also missed " if you are a by the book kind of guy"......

And you are more worried about the 21st than me....... I can tell
UM...fortunately I understood that esoteric comment about the 21st.

More importantly, I think I understood the OP's impending dilemma too. I'm just saying......nyaa nyaa nyaa

Hey, it's all good.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:07 PM   #17
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OK I heard you all and did what I should have done in the first place. I put the spare tire for the MH and a half tank of fuel in the truck. Went and had it weighted. I do not like the answer but will have to live with it. It weighted 6020 lbs.
Anybody want to buy a nice truck? Tried to kill two birds with one stone but only killed one.
Thanks to all for your opinions.
Sorry to hear the worst case scenario came in. I've never seen a "curb" weight be an actual, real world weight but your case is pretty extreme. Good luck on the trade in and search for a good toad. I'm a Jeep guy myself but watch the '07+ 4drs, that's where we gout our education on advertised v.s. actual weights.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:14 PM   #18
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The tow bar is fine but your 300 lbs over on your hitch rating. If you should have and incident I would thinkg you will have some insurance issues. Better think twice before you try. If you're just weighing the vehicle dry, don't forget the weight of fuel you may on board and anything else inside you may be carrying along as well. Good Luck!
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NO NO NO

If the hitch is rated at 5000# it is 5000# whether or not the MH is below/at/over GVWR.
Sky Boss, re-read my post to the OP. I think it is accurate. I clearly state he is overweight based on the towbar capacity. He also needs to check what his coach is rated to pull.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:40 PM   #20
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Sky Boss, re-read my post to the OP. I think it is accurate. I clearly state he is overweight based on the towbar capacity. He also needs to check what his coach is rated to pull.
I agree that you indicated the toad would exceed the "hitch". The problem I had with your post, and perhaps it was inadvertent was this, "Better yet to weigh your coach fully loaded and subtract this weight from the GCWR. This is how much weight your coach can tow as certified by the manufacturer based on your actual weights."

Let me put it in numbers I know about my MH.

GCWR (30,000#) - GVWR (24,000#) = 6,000# but my hitch is only rated for 5,000#. Seems pretty straight forward that as long as I respect the 5,000# limit, it doesn't matter at all what my MH actually weighs as long as I don't exceed GVWR.

Now, as I read your statement, it says that as long as one doesn't exceed the GCWR that one can tow what ever they want as long as they don't exceed GCWR. That is not true because the hitch still becomes a limiting factor for an underweight MH. So, in that quoted statement it seemed to forget to include the caveat that one should not exceed the rated hitch capacity no mater how light the MH was compared to its GVWR.

So I reacted to, what I hope, was an unintended contradiction to to the hitch limitation. Sorry if it sounds like I was picking the fly poo out of the pepper but the contradiction I saw was significant. Again, I apologize if I am sounding a bit obtuse and anal to boot. Weight and balance often gets me up on my soap box and that is a story all in itself. LOL

So just for clarity and the sake of beating a dead horse back to life...There is no good argument to ever exceed hitch rating. Well, except maybe on December 21st.
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