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Old 03-28-2008, 03:01 PM   #15
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Bobby,
Sorry but I'm not not sure from your reply. Did they fix it where the light comes on or did they tell you it's ok even without the light?
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I am reading these posts with much interest, as I am shopping for a 06 or 07 Ford Ranger as we speak. We tow a CRV now, but wish to tow a Ranger in order to be able to put Harley in Ranger when wanting to take motorcycle with us. I had hoped the NTK was a simple thing. Thank you to all for any more info you may have for me.
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My '99 Explorer required a reflash of the computer by a Ford dealer.

Now it may be a wiring harness change?

The NTK is not available for the Ranger.

Explorer and Sport Trak only.
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I am reading these posts with much interest, as I am shopping for a 06 or 07 Ford Ranger as we speak. We tow a CRV now, but wish to tow a Ranger in order to be able to put Harley in Ranger when wanting to take motorcycle with us. I had hoped the NTK was a simple thing. Thank you to all for any more info you may have for me.
Becks.

I have been towing my 07 Ford Ranger 4X4 Automatic, 6 cylinder for over a year.

The neutral tow kit consists of the indicator light and - most importantly - the computer reprogram.

I went through 3 dealerships before I found one that knew what they were doing for this kit.

Ask them questions. If they tell you they have little or no experience - move on.

It works well and I have had no problems with the system.
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Gordon....Thanks so much for your prompt reply. That is indeed the very information I was seeking. This is also a good time to thank all the many others who are always so willing to help. As we all know and is often stated, this is simply the best RV forum on the net.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:01 PM   #20
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You could use a scotch lock and tap into the wire that supplies the current to the light that lights up in your toad and then run the wire you tapped in with to the front of your vehicle. Install a plug there. On the MH side run a wire from the back of the MH to the cab and then position a led light (draws minimal current) somewhere on / in your dash. Use a jumper between the MH and the toad when towing and when the led in your toad is lit up, the light on your dash would be lit also. Would be a simple wiring to do.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:43 PM   #21
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I had hoped the NTK was a simple thing.
becks, From the users point of view it is very simple to operate for safe towing.
Difficulty, if any, is that some dealers don't install very many, thus limited experience. Took my dealer (tech had done about a dozen)about an hour to install and it has worked very well.
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Thanks guys for your input. Ultimately, my NTK now works. After much research and using Google, I searched the Web for the Ford Dealer in "Wizard's" hometown. Butler Ford in Milledgeville, GA took the time to search their system looking for the install they did on his Explorer. I spoke to the Service Tech that did his and other installs. The bottom line is that the NTK is nothing more than a light with a pig-tale that plugs into an existing plug under the dash. The Tech then has to use the Ford IDS computer to go into the vehicle PCM. You have to change the tranmsission/transfer case to allow neutral tow. The Tech from Butler Ford says the install should take no more than 20 minutes total. He is right, it is very simple! The Butler Ford Tech and Service Advisor went well above the call to help me.

I went through the Neutral Tow steps prior to leaving the dealership and all appears to be working. I still don't understand why Ford doesn't offer the NT as a factory option???? Or, that clear instructions can't be given to the dealerships.

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Glad to hear you got this resolved. I just traded my '04 Explorer for an '08. I removed the little light/pigtail/connector and took it to my Ford dealer and asked if they could use it and do the neutral tow programming on the '08. A service manager(whom I have grown to trust) checked and said the '08 requires a different pigtail and has ordered a new kit.
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I believe he was telling you the truth. From my research other the past week, the NTK part # 6L2Z-7H332-A is for V8/6 speed Automatic Transmission Exlorer's for model years 2006, 2007, and 2008. Apparently, the "Limited" trim level can have and AWD drivetrain which can not be configured for flat towing. The vehcile has to have 4wd with a two speed transfer case. During one of the trips to my dealership in Bimringham, Al, the service advisor tried to tell me that the NTK wouldn't work on my vehicle becasue it was not 4wd, but that 4x4 Auto really meant AWD. I pointed to the NTK instructions, where it says to press and hold the "4x4 Auto" button in two different steps. I hope your new Explorer is a 4X4.

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I believe he was telling you the truth. From my research other the past week, the NTK part # 6L2Z-7H332-A is for V8/6 speed Automatic Transmission Exlorer's for model years 2006, 2007, and 2008. Apparently, the "Limited" trim level can have and AWD drivetrain which can not be configured for flat towing. The vehcile has to have 4wd with a two speed transfer case. During one of the trips to my dealership in Bimringham, Al, the service advisor tried to tell me that the NTK wouldn't work on my vehicle becasue it was not 4wd, but that 4x4 Auto really meant AWD. I pointed to the NTK instructions, where it says to press and hold the "4x4 Auto" button in two different steps. I hope your new Explorer is a 4X4.

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Mine is the V8 with true 4WD...same setup as the '04 except the '08's now have a 6 speed automatic transmission. My Ford guy is using part #7L2Z-7H332-A...says it is $65. I am sure that does not include the re-programing.
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smlranger,

Perhaps the Fordvehicles.com site is not current, but the part number in your post returned as not valid according to Ford's acessory web site. When I searched for the NTK on the 2008 Explorer, V8 etc. it returns the part # in my previous post. It looks like the only difference is the first digit.

How do you like the new Explorer? We chose it because we have 4 children (needed 3rd row), wanted a good towing capacity and needed something under 5,000 pounds. We test drove a lot of vehciles, a think it is a good value, not to mention the great ride quality and plenty of get up and go with the V8. Ford did a nice job with traction and stability control as well.
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Perhaps the Fordvehicles.com site is not current, but the part number in your post returned as not valid according to Ford's acessory web site. When I searched for the NTK on the 2008 Explorer, V8 etc. it returns the part # in my previous post. It looks like the only difference is the first digit.

How do you like the new Explorer? We chose it because we have 4 children (needed 3rd row), wanted a good towing capacity and needed something under 5,000 pounds. We test drove a lot of vehciles, a think it is a good value, not to mention the great ride quality and plenty of get up and go with the V8. Ford did a nice job with traction and stability control as well.
While we've only had the '08 for 3 days, we're impressed. It has more power, is quieter, rides and handles better than our '04...and we liked the '04. We would have gotten the Ford Edge but I need the towing ability of the V8 Explorer for the occassional tow of my boat.

My Ford guy showed me the kit for my '08 today and it had the part # he gave me. It has more wiring than the simple kit for my '04 and requires removal of the center console to make some attachments near the shift lever. It is to be installed tomorrow.
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