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11-28-2013, 05:01 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Joliet, Illinois
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Four wheel down towing
Just wondering if anyone would know how much it would cost to set up a 2010 Chevy Cobalt approximatly? Are supplimental braking systems nessesary? Info wold be appreciated.
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11-28-2013, 05:26 PM
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Gulf Streamers Club
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How much are you willing to do yourself? A baseplate costs about $400, then that again to install. Tow bar is $600, lights can be $20 (Harbor Freight magnetic) to $120 for diodes and wire harness to use car lights. Again you have to add in for labor to install if you don't DIY.
Braking system is VERY necessary for your safety and others on the road. The Cobalt weighs 2,800 lbs. Auxiliary brakes will make your combined vehicles stop faster and also aid in speed control going down a mountain pass. Even if you squeak under state laws, you can't beat law of physics. It's safer with them. A brake system, according to type you select, can run another $400 - $1200 plus installation.
These prices can be greatly reduced by buying used. I paid full price for a base plate, installed it myself (required removal of front fenders (inner and outer), lights, and bumper. Tow bar was used from Craig's list, Braking system was from Ebay, added my own light sockets and LED lights inside tail lights. All together, about $850.
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11-28-2013, 07:21 PM
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Freightliner Owners Club
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Cost me $2700 for new Blue ox tow bar and base plate purchased below retail on eBay and Rvi2 auxiliary brake. Had to have the base plate installed on our 2009 Saturn Vue as it involved removing the front bumper grille and other components. Also had it wired as well at the same time.
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11-29-2013, 08:24 AM
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I know a lot of people on here don't like Camping World but they do offer $29 installation now on anything purchased from them!!
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11-29-2013, 03:11 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I'd want to read the fine print for Camping World's $29.00 installation fee for anything purchased from them. If it includes base mounting plates for tow bars I'd say that is a real bargain, unless they've jacked the price up on mounting plates to compensate for the installation fee. It wouldn't surprise me to find out the average time required for base plate installs is 6 hours or more. As far as the cost of the equipment needed to flat tow goes, I'd guess it can be done for about $1200.00 minimum and up to a few thousand depending on what you buy, and for less if you find used equipment that you like.
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11-29-2013, 04:51 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Flat toad caution
Please be aware that toad to motorhome has to be exactly level. (We learned the hard way) by having to change two tires on my new crossover for new tires. They wore uneven and sounded terrible. Make sure you have the right level. Hard lesson learned. Dah!!!
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11-29-2013, 05:06 PM
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Gulf Streamers Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by parrett1012
Please be aware that toad to motorhome has to be exactly level. (We learned the hard way) by having to change two tires on my new crossover for new tires. They wore uneven and sounded terrible. Make sure you have the right level. Hard lesson learned. Dah!!!
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A height difference between receiver and base plate should be within a couple of inches, as per tow bar manufacturers. The reason is to prevent car from pole-vaulting into rear of the RV (if base plate is higher than receiver) or pushing up on RV's rear and nose diving toad. (if base plate is lower than receiver)
I don't know how height would have anything to do with tire wear.
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11-29-2013, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by parrett1012
Please be aware that toad to motorhome has to be exactly level. (We learned the hard way) by having to change two tires on my new crossover for new tires. They wore uneven and sounded terrible. Make sure you have the right level. Hard lesson learned. Dah!!!
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Sure you did not forget to unlock the steering wheel?? I have some friends who forgot. Really messed up the front tires.
Tow bar being a little out of level would not affect tires at all.
Mine about 4 degrees off and towed four down for over 4 years not problems what so ever.
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11-29-2013, 05:47 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Blue Ox says the toad end of the towbar should be level to no more than 4" below the receiver.
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11-29-2013, 06:01 PM
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Check on hitchsource.com. I got my package there with totally free shipping! I had a body shop install the baseplate by the package directions for $100. Camping world wanted $500 with their install special. They charge the fee for EVERY component installed. My total out of pocket for ready brute with blue Ox baseplate was $1700
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11-29-2013, 06:30 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I just got a quote to purchase and install a Blue Ox tow bar, base plate and Invisibrake braking system on a 2013 Chevrolet Spark. $3,609.41
Jon
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11-29-2013, 06:49 PM
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Thor Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Check out etrailer.com. They are great folks and have some videos of installs on many vehicles. I installed the base plate, wiring and brake for the towed and it was not difficult.
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11-30-2013, 01:39 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cart
Check out etrailer.com. They are great folks and have some videos of installs on many vehicles. I installed the base plate, wiring and brake for the towed and it was not difficult.
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X2 on eTrailer. I ordered from there and found the tow bar for less before it was even shipped. Sent them an email and they refunded me the difference plus 10% the next day. They also provide technical assistance should you need it, and if I have an issue you will always get the same person when you call in so there is no getting anyone up to speed on the issue, they are already familiar with your issue. The best part is, they actually know what you need, no guessing, I needed the guidance as I am a TOAD virgin.
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11-30-2013, 10:55 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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[QUOTE=BFlinn181;1826110]The reason is to prevent car from pole-vaulting into rear of the RV (if base plate is higher than receiver) or pushing up on RV's rear and nose diving toad. (if base plate is lower than receiver)QUOTE]
I don't see how having the tow bar at an angle to the hitch would do this (as described above) if the toad has a proportional braking system. During any type of braking the toad would be pulling back on the motor home as it will try to stop in shorter distance than the heavier motor home would. Of course, if the toad "doesn't" have a braking system, then yeah, I would understand.
As for the original question: my friend just outfitted his motor home and toad with a new Roadmaster Falcon AT tow bar, Roadmaster base plate, Roadmaster Invisa Brake for the toad, and all wiring.... installed for $3K.
Ron
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