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Old 11-29-2013, 09:04 AM   #15
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When we were towing with a motorhome, we had a break away system along with the dinghy brakes. There is always a possibility that things can break and I did not want to have it weighing on my mind that with just one more safety item I could have prevented a dinghy coming loose, crossing the road and causing an accident.

Do not "cheap out" and not get a safety system that is easily used.

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Old 11-29-2013, 09:52 AM   #16
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Semi drivers have the same wackos at truck stops. I believe they lock their trailer brakes and keep reversing to "lock" the trailer to the cab. I understand that a quick visual check is performed before they pull forward to insure the trailer is not dropped on the ground while pulling away.
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Old 11-29-2013, 10:02 AM   #17
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If you have the proper setup (safety chains/cables, breakaway circuit on the supplemental brake, etc.), then locks instead of easily removable pins is just the icing on the safety cake!
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Old 11-29-2013, 10:06 AM   #18
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I can't imagine anyone pulling a toad without a break-a-way system and safety cables! The lives of other people on the road mean more to me than that! JMHO
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:59 AM   #19
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Locks on everyplace that takes a pin. Better safe than sorry.
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Old 11-29-2013, 02:59 PM   #20
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I noticed some supplemental braking systems come with or without an automatic breakaway brake. So my question is, with the proper safety chains / cables, is a supplemental breakaway braking system necessary? I understand that the peace of mind alone is probably with the extra expense and I am sure some state laws require it. However, has anyone of you actually lost a toad while towing it?

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I want to add one more element to this question. Lost a toad while towing it with all the appropriate safety chains / cables properly installed?
Yep. The baseplate broke at the welds. The tow bar, safety cables, front of the car and the base plate were all still attached to the motorhome.



Unfortunately, I made the mistake of attaching the breakaway switch to the car's bodywork. That would work fine if the toad became disconnected from both the tow bar and the safety cables; but since the whole front of the car got pulled off, the breakaway switch went too and didn't trip to apply the car's brakes. Fortunately, we were going very slowly at the time, and the car drifted safely to a stop and didn't hit anything.

When I replaced the baseplate and repaired the car, I made sure the breakaway switch was attached to the car's FRAME.
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A friend of mine towed his Jeep for a number of years without a braking system. On a trip thru Arkansas the Jeep separated from the MH. He was moving at a low speed and the Jeep stopped without doing much damage. He found that the receiver welds had broken and fallen off the MH. The receiver was still attached to the tow bar which was attached to the Jeep. He had a braking system with brake away switch installed shortly thereafter.

I inspect the bolts and welds on my receiver on a regular basis now and the brake away cable is attached to the MH and not the receiver.
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Unfortunately, I made the mistake of attaching the breakaway switch to the car's bodywork. That would work fine if the toad became disconnected from both the tow bar and the safety cables; but since the whole front of the car got pulled off, the breakaway switch went too and didn't trip to apply the car's brakes. Fortunately, we were going very slowly at the time, and the car drifted safely to a stop and didn't hit anything.

When I replaced the baseplate and repaired the car, I made sure the breakaway switch was attached to the car's FRAME.

Wow, that would certainly make a person take a big Gulp....

Both of my BlueOx Base Plates were supplied with Safety Cables along with instructions on putting them through the base plate and the chassis. At first I thought is was Over Kill,,, Now I see why.
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FYI, here is part of the Base Plate Instruction from BlueOx for the 2013 Honda CRV which is typical of all base plates from BlueOx.

23. Attach the permanent baseplate safety cables to
the provided convenience link on the baseplate.
The photo shows the recommended installation
of the cables to frame of vehicle. Additional
options may interfere with suggested mounting;
in this case, secure the cables to a solid piece
of the frame as described in the instructions
included with the permanent baseplate safety
cables. Be sure the safety cables do not rub
against any hoses or moving parts. Do this on
BOTH sides of the vehicle.


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The vast majority of people never use an air bag or a seat belt, or supplemental braking for what they are intended. We should be thankful. Losing a toad is most likely less probable.

But the exception is what we plan for if prudent. Having the proper safety equipment is like having the right tool for the job. When you need it nothing else will do.

Also walk around and do a re check every time you pull out particularly from rest stops. I do and have never found anything wrong in ten years. I still do.
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I have "Lost" a towed twice.. The first time the hitch adapter (tow bars) came out of the hitch receiver, NO defect, somehow the hairpin got pulled and the tow pin just fell out. NO i was not vandals.. Long story.

The second time I lost the entire hitch assembly INCLUDING the attachment points for the safety cables ... IN this case conditions were such I did not loose the towed... The brakes stopped it gently along with the motor home (I think the last bit of bracket broke as we stopped) but.. I'm glad I had brakes.

Some places require break-a-way systems for trailers over xxxx pounds.. And a car in tow.. IS a trailer.
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I ALWAYS check the pins when I stop, after an experience I had with someone at a truck stop cutting the trailer light connector pigtail with bolt cutters years ago, on our old TT. Anyone who would do that is a hair away from pulling pins.
I think I'll be installing locking pins though.
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:46 PM   #27
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HI EVERYONE I disconnect all my electrical cables from my toad when we parkt overnight at wal mart or someplace else a friend of my,n had his cables stolen while thy where sleeping you need those cables to move on just my 2 cents
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We have a KarKatty, when we stop @ A rest area one of us stays with the coach, same while @ a stop for a pop or Candie bar. We still check the straps and look at the pins to be sure they are still there. Safety chains looped around frame of toad. I can't believe that someone would be so thoughtless to sabotage someones personal property.
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