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Old 03-27-2015, 07:39 PM   #1
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I'm looking for a vehicle that can tow a 4500 lb boat but and also be towed 4 wheels down (not at the same time, just want dual purpose vehicle). Any suggestions? I have a Tiffin Allegro RED MH that can tow 10000 lbs, but really wanted to tow something less that the maximum.
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Old 03-27-2015, 08:48 PM   #2
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My JGC (info below) has a tow limit of 7,200lb. I think the diesel version is similar. The 3.6L engine limit is 6,200lb. That's with the factory tow package.
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I'm looking for a vehicle that can tow a 4500 lb boat but and also be towed 4 wheels down (not at the same time, just want dual purpose vehicle). Any suggestions? I have a Tiffin Allegro RED MH that can tow 10000 lbs, but really wanted to tow something less that the maximum.
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Well Sir, I don't know what kind of weight you want to haul but, we tow an '11 GMC Sierra Extended Cab 4x4. It's easily capable of towing that boat, especially since we tow our 4200 lb. Kayot boat with it on a regular basis. The truck tows just fine behind our motor home, a 2004 Itasca Horizon 36GD with the C-7 330HP CAT. The truck weighs 5300 lbs., based on the certified scale I weighed it on.

Now, it depends on how new you want your new(er) toad to be, that will determine the prep procedures of the truck for towing. By that I mean, on my truck, the transfer case is put into "Neutral" via a rotational shift knob on the dash. Then, the truck it put in park, the parking brake released, the engine is shut down and, the key removed.

Unlike the newer models, as in around '13 and later, (not sure about the '12s) they have to have the battery disconnected for electrical reasons in prep for towing.

So, this is just some info for you to ponder over. Good luck.
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One of the vehicles we flat tow is a GMC 2500HD 4x4 pickup. Full of fuel with no passengers it weighs 7500#'s. The Duramax diesel, Allison transmission, and 4x4 may be overkill for your current boat but it will handle whatever you might tow in the future and is a very versatile toad.
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Old 03-27-2015, 10:33 PM   #5
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How about one like our toad. We use it to carry all the boating and fishing things we need when fishing Alaska. Ours is an extended cab long bed with a large cap. When we are in AK we assemble the boat trailer, put the 14 ft inflatable behind it and add the 20hp Yamaha. We pull various loads on the farm at home up to and beyond the GVW without a problem. 5 minutes to prepare to tow, no electrical wires or fuses to pull, and you pocket the key.
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We are towing a F150 4x4 CC 3.5 Ecoboost with Max Tow package. 7700 GVWR, 11.1K towing.
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BTW, your Allegro Red has a hitch rated for 10,000 lbs but a transmission rated for <5000 lbs. You maximum tow weight is your GCWR - GVW. If you do the math, your max toad weight will be more like 3500 - 4000 lbs. Tiffin has just started offering a larger engine/transmission combo on the Reds that would allow you to tow heavier vehicles.
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GMC Acadia & Buick Enclave and Chevy Traverse are all flat towable and have tow ratings up to 5200 lbs. The SUV itself weighs about 5000 lbs, so should be [barely] ok to tow behind the RED.
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GMC Acadia & Buick Enclave and Chevy Traverse are all flat towable and have tow ratings up to 5200 lbs. The SUV itself weighs about 5000 lbs, so should be [barely] ok to tow behind the RED.
We used to pull an Enclave. It was our first toad. Unless you need the extra row of seating they offer, I would go with a Grand Cherokee instead of one of those. The JGC has a real transfer case with neutral, so no leaving the key in and no fuse to pull.
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Our towed is in the signature. Tows great. No fuses to pull. Ready Brake Elite, Blue Ox base plates. I added taillights into the lens with separate wiring. Easy peasey.
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Thankyou to everyone who responded. I didn't know about the transmission limitation. As a new RV'er I get a lot of valuable information from this site. I may just stick with 2 single purpose vehicles now. I appreciate all responses!
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