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02-03-2017, 06:05 AM
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Registered User
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
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My Monaco Windsor has a full-length monogrammed mud flap that sits about 6-8 inches above the road when at ride-height. Never had any problems with debris when towing.
I sat in a RV Park in Fairbanks Alaska for two months while visiting my son back in 2015. I watched a variety of coaches arrive and leave over the 2 months and observed a number of them dragging the mud flap on the gravel while driving past me. YES, those are the coaches that should remove them immediately as they are causing more problems than preventing them.
Hard to imagine where those design engineers were educated who approved the mud flap to be installed that low. They should take up a different career.
Dr4Film ----- Richard
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02-03-2017, 06:43 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ & Plover, WI
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We pull an enclosed trailer that is painted to match the MH. Our son has a similar setup. After a trip two years ago, I noticed small stone chips as high as seven feet above the road on the front of the trailer. Cost over $800 to have it repainted. I removed the big mud flap and after 12,000 miles on all kinds of roads, no more paint chips. Our son did the same with his. The small flaps behind the rear tires do their job. The big flap can creat a down draft that will blow up small stone and get them airborne to fly into anything behind the coach. I see no point in having it except to advertise or make the owner fll warm and fuzzy.
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02-03-2017, 07:06 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: May 2012
Location: DFW, Tex-US
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Before I got the protect-a-tow our jeep wrangler usually had a collection of very small rocks (bigger than sand, but smaller than 1/8th inch pebbles) gathered on top the front bumper cover below the grill...(highlighted on the very top left of the pic below)
So that showed me SOMETHING was causing the pebbles to fly up and hit the jeep before settling on top of the bumper cover...
Was it because of the flap being too low and throwing up small rocks, that's my guess, but really don't know
all I know is that its much less of a problem now.
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02-03-2017, 07:12 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,031
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When I bought my DP it didn't have a full width mud flap on the rear. After a few trips I got tired of cleaning off the rear cap that got real dirty in just a short time.
I then had a Full width solid mud flap put on. The rear cap stayed much cleaner on long trips. And fuel mileage had no change.
For Pulling a toad I use a Protect-a-Tow $179 + less the the Roadmaster version.
It stores easy on the back of the MH.
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02-03-2017, 08:05 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Olalla , WA
Posts: 258
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We recently bought a beautiful 2004 Jeep Liberty and when ordered up our tow package ordered the proper base plates to use both the Roadmaster products ..The Guardian Rock Shield & the Tow Defender to keep our jeep from getting dinged up.
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02-03-2017, 08:15 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,967
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After reading all of the posts they all seem to concern 4 down towing. Do the same problems exist if you're using a dolly?
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02-03-2017, 09:20 AM
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Senior Member
Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lake Wales, FL
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What no one has mentioned are dings on the motor home from rocks/stones kicked up by the full length mud flap bouncing off the toad and hitting the MH about mid way up. You need to look at the MH as well as the toad.
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2005 38' FDTS Alpine Limited, 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
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02-03-2017, 10:03 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
Join Date: May 2015
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This post makes me quite glad about our decision to not tow a vehicle. One less thing about which we have to worry...or debate...
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02-03-2017, 10:24 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Enjoying the Western States!
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Another thing we observed on a heavily rainy day for lack of anything to do from the passenger seat as we were going through Salt Lake City - I watched the motorhome traffic in the opposite direction and noted that those with the full stiff flap across the rear had the water arcing high onto the hood area of their toads. Those without the big flap had the water spraying at the lower grill/tire area.
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02-03-2017, 05:42 PM
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Senior Member
Thor Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Mitchell South Dakota
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I am going to order the Protect-A-Tow !! Comment
After reading your information and looking more into the Protect-A-Tow, this looks like the way to go for me.
Our motorhome has the original mud flap with name on the back of it but the owner highly recommended we not use it for the reasons I mentioned in my original post.
Aerodynamic Drag
Causes more damage than protection
Added Weight
Since it was our first motorhome and he actually owned a Campground and had more knowledge about DP than I did I took his advice. The Jeep I purchased was from a Lady who she and her husband had it behind their coach and it has some rock chips on if from towing so I want to not contribute to that. Really looks like this Protect-A-Tow is the way to go. Any of you have leads on best price place to go? Looks like you go right to the manufacturer $219 + SH. From what I see looks like one size fits all..
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02-03-2017, 05:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,967
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I'm confused... My coach says it comes with "Front and Rear Mud Flaps" and "Full Width Rear Rock Guard". I've also noticed that most motorhomes come with them. Why would a coach builder put things on their coaches that are bad for the Toad and bad for the rear cap of the motorhome?
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02-03-2017, 06:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Have used the road master guardian for over 100,000 miles. No chips on the toad or the rear cap. DP is a Monaco Dynasty
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02-03-2017, 06:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Silver Spring, MD
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I just use a LeBra on the front of the Malibu and have the stock mud-flaps on the motorhome's rear tires. I've been to Maine and back, no Alaska-type trips. No issues with chips or problems with the Toad.
I was wondering about the full - width flap at the rear, too. But don't think i'll do anything different for now.
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02-03-2017, 07:14 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ & Plover, WI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WyoFree
I'm confused... My coach says it comes with "Front and Rear Mud Flaps" and "Full Width Rear Rock Guard". I've also noticed that most motorhomes come with them. Why would a coach builder put things on their coaches that are bad for the Toad and bad for the rear cap of the motorhome?
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One of the main reasons they put them on a coach is that it's free advertising for them and they get to charge you for it. A lot of people like to see it on the back of their MH telling people what they have. I don't think the manufacturers care what happens to the toad and I have not seen where it has harmed any coach I have owned. Many swear by them, but I along with just as many swear at them. They just do not offer any benefit.
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