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Old 07-15-2015, 08:46 PM   #29
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I prefer to use a website such as: Towing World Official Website

The key is, as stated, not where you live so much, it is where will you be going? For example, Texas and Louisiana have no requirement.

However, Mississipi does and New Mexico does.
Brake Laws Towed Cars Brake hook-up required.
Brake Buddy has a map based on towing weight:

Towing Laws | BrakeBuddy - Braking systems for motorhomes towing a vehicle

Therefore, you should plan for the most restrictive state you are likely to pass through.
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Old 08-08-2015, 12:28 PM   #30
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I would not drive the Rv without my brakebuddy. My first with it, a tractor trailer did a panic stop in front of us. I put the brake pedal hard on and we stopped 5 feet from the back of the truck. Everything in the RV was thrown forward, clothes in closet all bunched to the front. Without the Brake Buddy there is absolutely no question we would have hit the truck. Also with the toad doing some of the braking it stayed straight behind us which it would not have done otherwise.
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Old 08-08-2015, 04:45 PM   #31
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There really is no free ride. Some people think they are saving money by not having supplemental brakes on the toad. But without the brakes on the toad the brakes and tires on the RV are doing extra work and wearing out sooner. Then as many have already mentioned you have to deal with a possible accident because you didn't have brakes and the liability that that involves. Yes you may get by, and many do, but many also don't. I don't want to be in an emergency situation without supplemental brakes.
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Old 08-08-2015, 08:40 PM   #32
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How Many Use Supplemental Braking ...

We use the BlueOx Patriot on both Jeeps (one Patriot -- we move it back and forth). The Wrangler and the Cherokee both weigh-in at about 3700 pounds. \ken
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Use Invisibrake in our 2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid. So easy to use. Also use Blue Ox Patriot in a Ford Ranger PU. Both towed by a 2013 Itasca Navion IQ. Mercedes Sprinter has plenty of power to tow either
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My 2004 Workhorse owners manual makes a clear statement " When the towed weight exceeds 1,000 pounds, the towing system must be equipped with a separate brake system for the towed load and be activated by the braking application of the towing vehicle. I have a W-22 chassis.


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Ford has similar recommendations. They say anything being towed that weighs over 1,500 lbs. needs it's own braking system. In addition they also say the braking system on the motorhome chassis is rated for the GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating which is the amount of weight on the chassis) not the GCWR (gross combined weight rating which is the weight carried on the chassis and the weight of anything being towed).

So if you load your motorhome (on the Ford chassis) to the maximum GVWR you'll need brakes on anything being towed regardless of the weight.

Neither Ford or Workhorse get into the semantics of whether a towed vehicle is considered a trailer. They both say towing anything above a certain weight requires supplemental brakes.
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Old 08-10-2015, 02:13 PM   #35
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Even if the state you are in does not require an auxiliary brake system and you get into an accident that is your fault the other persons attorney will be all over you. Get the aux system you are better off with it.
I use a Blue Ox Patroit and it works well. I totally agree with GG1 on the need for one of these things. I can tell you that if you are involved in an accident that is your fault, there is not enough money anywhere to pay bill if you are towing without an aux braking system.
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The laws vary from state to state.

The LAWS OF PHYSICS do not vary.

A well designed and properly installed and maintained aux brake system WILL decrease your stopping distance.

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Use Invisibrake in our 2015 Ford Fusion Hybrid. So easy to use. Also use Blue Ox Patriot in a Ford Ranger PU. Both towed by a 2013 Itasca Navion IQ. Mercedes Sprinter has plenty of power to tow either
We have similar toads '13 fusion hybrid and '06 Ranger. Brake Buddy Vantage Select for the ranger. JUST found out that the Brake Buddy stealth can't be installed in our hybrid following BB requirements.
Now I'm between Blue Ox Patriot and the RVI2.
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I prefer to use a website such as: Towing World Official Website

The key is, as stated, not where you live so much, it is where will you be going? For example, Texas and Louisiana have no requirement.

However, Mississipi does and New Mexico does.
Brake Laws Towed Cars Brake hook-up required.
Brake Buddy has a map based on towing weight:

Towing Laws | BrakeBuddy - Braking systems for motorhomes towing a vehicle

Therefore, you should plan for the most restrictive state you are likely to pass through.
And even thought that Towingworld website is pretty good it's still wrong. The last time I looked it was wrong for CA and WA and I didn't check anything but WA, CA, and OR.
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SMI Air Force One here. I would rather be safe than sorry.

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Just bought and installed the RVi2. Customer service was awesome! Just too many idiots out there pulling out in front of me.
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Our braking system is M&G. Even if the RV brake system can adequately stop the toad, I wouldn't leave home without an emergency braking system that will stop my CR-V if it should somehow detach from the motorhome.



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Our rig UVW is 46,504#'s, loaded we're right about 50,000#'s, our GVWR is 54,000#'s and our GCVWR is 69,000#'s.
With the '05 Odyssey on we're right at the GVWR but still way under the GCVWR. We have a three stage engine brake that is extremely strong and all wheel disk brakes. I don't feel the need for add'l braking on the towed but I still have it!
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