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Old 06-20-2011, 06:36 PM   #99
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If you do not have a brake system and get into an accident you give a lawyer ammo to use against you in a court case, plus more and more states are requireing them over certain weights.
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Old 06-21-2011, 02:44 PM   #100
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What in the world does this have to do with toad brakes?? Toad brakes won't help you if a tree falls on your motorhome or if it is caught up in a forest fire either, but that neither negates nor affirms their worth.

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As far as i'm conserned toad brakes don't help me from all those that refer to all the close calls they have had; my opinion is that they were most likley going to fast or wern't paying attention to the road ahead of them.
Thats my opinion and i:ll stick with it
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Old 06-21-2011, 03:02 PM   #101
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If you do not have a brake system and get into an accident you give a lawyer ammo to use against you in a court case, plus more and more states are requireing them over certain weights.

Amen!!
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Just curious what the downside is to having toad brakes. Is it just the $$$?
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Just curious what the downside is to having toad brakes. Is it just the $$$?
You hit it on the head there. Also some people take the approach that the government can't make do anything I don't want to do.

And on a few dinghy brake units, it may take 4 or 5 minute more to set it up.

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You hit it on the head there. Also some people take the approach that the government can't make do anything I don't want to do.

And on a few dinghy brake units, it may take 4 or 5 minute more to set it up.

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Get an SMI system. Flip one switch and you're ready to go. They are more expensive with installation than the box type units. You get what you pay for.
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I just hope that those gentlemen that don't have brakes on their Toad let the rest of us know the routes they use. At least that way we can avoid them!
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We use a braking system with out towed Jeep.

I agree that yes you can go without, however I think that once you have a system you will always use one.

Back in the late 70's my folks had a Pace arrow that towed a Toyota without brakes. We went from Ontario to Alaska with it and I remember my father saying that he wish he had left it at home more than a few times because of it pushing us down the mountains and hills.
Surely from a safety stand point on some trips it bothered him. Every bit of stopping power helps.

I started out without a system also but now would not tow without.

There are some things that you can travel without, but good brakes, tires and steering are not one of them.

Just my 2 cents....
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I just hope that those gentlemen that don't have brakes on their Toad let the rest of us know the routes they use. At least that way we can avoid them!
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Here in Ontario Canada it is law that towing anything over 3000 lbs must have its own braking system.
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As far as i'm conserned toad brakes don't help me from all those that refer to all the close calls they have had; my opinion is that they were most likley going to fast or wern't paying attention to the road ahead of them.
Thats my opinion and i:ll stick with it
You've got a point, and it's probably marginally a good one if you never drive anywhere except on perfect roads in a sparsely populated plains state, but in heavy traffic and in the mountains, I'd re-examine your theory if I were you. We're all human, and the probability exists that sooner or later, in some condition, we'll all misjudge something, something will change faster than we expected, and then every bit of braking will be needed.

As a motorcyclist as well as an RV'er, I am one of the most defensive drivers ever, I drive as if everyone out there is trying to kill me and that's why I'm still here after quite a bit of 2-wheeling. But that does not automatically hold true for the future - we have to accept the possibility of something we didn't foresee until maximum correction is necessary, otherwise, why bother to have good equipment anyway?

Especially on the east coast you just can't stay far enough away from the crazy drivers to assure not having to maneuver quickly and stab the brakes good and hard under a variety of conditions at a variety of speeds. Besides, many states do have a legal requirement if the towed vehicle is over 3000 lbs, and I like to obey laws when I visit places that have them, it makes for more pleasure and less worry in the long run.
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Get an SMI system. Flip one switch and you're ready to go. They are more expensive with installation than the box type units. You get what you pay for.
We have the SMI on our HHR. We live in the Northwest and do a fair amount of mountain driving. Yes, I know it is working when I come down a pass or in heavy urban traffic.

The set-up is a few seconds added to the toad hook-up. Not a valid reason to not have brakes.
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[QUOTE=GOLDWINGER2;885352]I-5, San Diego to Canada. I-15, San Diego to St. George,Utah.
I-10, Santa Monica, Ca to Pensacola, Fl.
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I travel in all the 48 lower states; so all you guys that won't travel on the same roads as me, THANK YOU some of you guys travel way to fast to stop even with those brakes of yours.
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I-5, San Diego to Canada. I-15, San Diego to St. George,Utah.
I-10, Santa Monica, Ca to Pensacola, Fl.
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I travel in all the 48 lower states; so all you guys that won't travel on the same roads as me, THANK YOU some of you guys travel way to fast to stop even with those brakes of yours.

melvonnar, what kind of a rig are you running down the road?
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