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Old 06-22-2011, 05:50 PM   #113
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I practice the Smith: Philosophy of defensive driving. I drive the speed limit and leave a BIG space cushion. I still have drivers that speed up to pass me and then cut in front of me to take the off ramp. Some drivers don't realize or care that I can not stop on a dime.

If you want or need to justify your non use of auxiliary brakes go right ahead. I will take all of the braking help that I can get.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:08 PM   #114
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I practice the Smith: Philosophy of defensive driving.
Haven't heard that name in a long time. Ma Bell sent me to that school when they hired me in '67. "Get the Big Picture"
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:18 PM   #115
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Haven't heard that name in a long time. Ma Bell sent me to that school when they hired me in '67. "Get the Big Picture"
I signed on with Ma Bell (Pac Bell) in 1964. They sent us thru it almost every year due to new hires and it was a good refresher for everyone.
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Old 06-23-2011, 09:04 AM   #116
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melvonnar, what kind of a rig are you running down the road?
34 foot coachman catilina: if you see me comming and your going the speed limit; please slow down, you know I don't have brakes on my toad.
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Old 06-23-2011, 09:12 AM   #117
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Have always had brakes on toad. Would hate to think of the consequences and liability issues of not having them in an accident. You would also be breaking the law in many states...
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Old 06-23-2011, 09:16 AM   #118
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There is no down side to toad brakes, aside from the relatively (compared to everything else; bought fuel lately?) low cost; and plenty of reasons to have them. The only reason to not have them is terminal cheapness.

But then, some of you have your minds made up, so threads like this are pointless.
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Old 06-23-2011, 09:22 AM   #119
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[QUOTE=SAMCUDNEY;886256]There is no down side to toad brakes, aside from the relatively (compared to everything else; bought fuel lately?) low cost; and plenty of reasons to have them. The only reason to not have them is terminal cheapness.

Never say cheap" the word is thrifty.
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Old 06-23-2011, 09:55 AM   #120
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Hi All,

I also use a toad breaking system! I have the old metal box break buddy, I bought it in 1995 and have used it on the 95 Jeep Wrangler as well as still useing it on the 04 Jeep Wrangler, both Auto trans and towed 4 down! Have not had any trouble at all with either the Break Buddy or the Jeeps!

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Dealer where we got hitch said they don't even stock them anymore - nobody buys them. We went from Virginia to Yellowstone and back towing a Saturn with our class A gasser. No problems. Maybe if I had a bigger rig and a bigger toad I'd get them, but not with what we have.
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Dealer where we got hitch said they don't even stock them anymore - nobody buys them...
Is that like yogi berra's "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded."?

Hard to buy them if he doesn't stock them.

That dealer did you a disservice by not stressing the need for a brake system with your setup IMHO.
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Dealer where we got hitch said they don't even stock them anymore - nobody buys them. We went from Virginia to Yellowstone and back towing a Saturn with our class A gasser. No problems. Maybe if I had a bigger rig and a bigger toad I'd get them, but not with what we have.

Again, another case of not believing what comes out of the dealers mouth. Problem is they do not sell them at a reasonable price...to much mark up. Most savvy people shop them on the net.

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When we tow the suburban, we have a brake system in it but we do not use one when we tow the Mini Cooper.
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My toad is about 7000lb loaded for travel. I wouldn't leave the driveway without my M&G brake system.
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Here in Ontario Canada it is law that towing anything over 3000 lbs must have its own braking system.
And I've read that they do check and make you drive the towed rather than tow it if you don't have supplemental brakes.
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