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Old 03-16-2014, 01:10 PM   #15
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SuperDad I need a toad!
I need a small SUV for a toad to tow behind our gas RV.

Needs to be a good daily driver too.

Had to sell my 2004 GMC Envoy because it weighed to much for my RV. Would like something similar to it that weighs less then 4k.

Needs to be in the 6K range. Any ideas?

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Tow my 2014 GMC Terrain behind 27 foot class C with no problems. Easy set up and go. Get aux brake system.

$6K huh? That's gonna be difficult unless you get something much older and lots of miles on it. For that price, you're better off looking for something made in the late 90's or early 00's. Saturn, Ranger, etc....

If you really liked your GMC Envoy, then I too recommend the miniature version of it (the Terrain). Ours is loaded to the gills with every option available and weighs just a shade over 4000 lbs and is an excellent daily driver and requires no modification to tow. The mpg isn't quite what is advertised, but.....it also cost over $30K....little bit more than what you're looking for. The cheaper model without all the bells and whistles is closer to 3700 lbs. If your towing limit is 3500 lbs, then look for something even smaller. If 5000 lbs, this should fit the bill.

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I'm pretty sure the Encore is not towable, I just checked on the web and can't find anything that indicates it is.
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Old 03-16-2014, 02:50 PM   #17
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Anybody know what a 2000 jeep wrangler Sahara
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Old 03-16-2014, 07:43 PM   #18
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Found a 2000 GMC Jimmy 2 door 4x4. book says it weighs 3886. Anybody towing one of these?
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:03 PM   #19
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I'm pretty sure the Encore is not towable, I just checked on the web and can't find anything that indicates it is.
We are both half correct. I checked the Encore manual at:

http://www.buick.com/content/dam/Bui...2_20130307.pdf

and it appears that this vehicle is only towable via a dolly and in FWD configuration. That's a shame since it is a nice vehicle. If my Vue ever gives up the ghost I will either get a Chevy Equinox, Honda CRV or Chevy Sonic. The latter being the least expensive and gets decent MPG. And in hatchback form, it's very functional. I like the Kia Soul also. UPDATE- I just checked the 2013 Canadian Kia web site and it said that the Soul can only be towed with the front wheels off the ground, And that was via a tow truck. It didn't say anything about an RV:

http://www.kia.ca/content/ownership/.../13soul_en.pdf
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:30 PM   #20
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We love our Toad 2013 Kia Soul, 2700lbs and 15K out the door. Out Third Toad and the best one yet.
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I tow our every day vehicle a Honda Pilot. Since there is 6 in our family I need the large toad. I also just purchased my dad's old toad. A 2008 Saturn Vue for my daughter's to use. It pulls better then the Pilot as it weighs about 600 lbs less. The Saturn Vue / Chevy Captiva are great toads.
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Got'ta speak up for the KIA SOUL. 2700 pounds, true 5 passenger, lots of shoulder room and head room, high roof line allows easy in and out. A new basic model (that is actually pretty loaded as is) can be out the door for about $16K, got mine for $15+ out the door.
We have 2012 Kia Soul and love it. A great Toad.
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Old 03-17-2014, 09:02 AM   #24
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We are both half correct. I checked the Encore manual at:

http://www.buick.com/content/dam/Bui...2_20130307.pdf

UPDATE- I just checked the 2013 Canadian Kia web site and it said that the Soul can only be towed with the front wheels off the ground, And that was via a tow truck. It didn't say anything about an RV:

http://www.kia.ca/content/ownership/.../13soul_en.pdf
I have a 2013 Soul, before purchase I researched the towing ability and found several instances of towing 4 down without consequence. It was my intent (and am currently) towing with a dolly. However; I did not want to limit my ability to switch to 4 down if I changed my mind later. I did find reference to a KIA General notice on the subject General - 018




I also recently looked at Blue Ox's site and viewed their full set-up for KIA Soul 2000-2013. I doubt they would offer the unit if it was not possible to use (just my opinion).

So anyone looking for a great TOAD should look beyond the owner manual, KIA appears to hedging somewhat, also their manual does not really dwell on a difference in towing manual vs automatic abilities.
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Lots of recommendations folks but few fall into the OP's $6000 budget.

First generation CRV's are dropping into that territory IF you can find one that's not totally worn out.
Jeep Cherokees (NOT Grand Cherokees) thru year 2001 are 3200 to 3800 lbs depending on year and trim.
Jeep Liberty replaced the Cherokee in 2002. Now we're pushing the price point.
Jeep Wranglers are good but more expensive and basically a 2-seater.

SuperDad - the Jimmy might work if the transfer case has a Neutral position. No guarantees. Also, keep in mind that published curb weights are notoriously low.

Keep looking and Best of Luck!
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Chevy Tracker or Suzuki Vitara if you can still find one in decent shape. I think the Vitara would be the easier one to find. Good luck.
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Well I'd love a Jeep Wranlger! But even the used ones aren't cheap. Maybe I'll look at the CRVs. I can slso go up in price if I gind something for a deal.

Soul's are just to small IMO
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Not really sure what my tow capacity is? Hitch says 5k?

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