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Old 09-14-2018, 03:56 AM   #29
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Haha...not every thread goes off topic. BUT threads about dolly towing ALL get the flat tow gang telling us how flat towing is better.

But reality is dolly towing is less investment, there is no modifications needed for the car, and you can change cars at will.
We have over 15,000miles on our dolly, have towed everthing from a tiny 2 door import to a full sized E-Series (just dropped the driveshaft).

Unloading takes less time than our flat tow travel partners and loading takes the same time.
And finally, there is no need to get on the ground to load a dolly...people spend thousands to set-up to flat tow, but will not take a moment to make dolly towing easier (like add a safety chain hook-up in an easy location, or add to the ramps skip-proofing).

Flat towing is great, but too restrictive for us. If you go that route, don't be surprised when the costs exceed what you would have paid for a simple dolly.

And...please tow with brakes. Just smart and safer,

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We dolly our Prius. I spent 3 hours running wire and mounting lights (tail, stop, and rear side markers). Next will be installing eyebolts to change create a better safety chain mounting point.
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A Prius would be a good option.
I could also use ot to drive to work from April to October and keep the mileage down on my Sequoia and save some gas.
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Setting up for dolly tow or flat tow can be very different depending on many aspects of the toad and the different system used. We have a flat tow system is very simple, and a two minute connect/disconnect. Toad is ideal for flat towing and the brake system is permanently installed (not a "portable" unit). Hookup the towbar, plug in the umbilical and go.
Don't forget the differences in maintenance between a dolly and a towbar.
Many variables and considerations for how you are planniing to use the toad.
We travel to visit many points of interest, not camping. We spend nights in the motorhome and days traveling/visiting with the toad. Connecting/unconnecting the tow every two or three days.
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...Don't forget the differences in maintenance between a dolly and a towbar...
Exactly

Like, wear and tear...
*Flat tow means the car has all those miles added to the lower drive-line of the toad (transaxle seals and fluid, CV joints and boots, and shaft bearings)
*Dolly tow means all the miles are on a free-wheeling trailer axle. The axle might need hub service about every 5 years or so.

Like resale...
*Flat tow means that except for another RV'r, buyers will shy away knowing there are all those hidden miles on the car.
*Dolly tow means the car is free from any extra miles.

Like Roadway Hazard...
*Flat tow means the car is low and vulnerable to rock chips and road debris damage...unless you obtain and use a bulky shield of some sort.
*Dolly tow means the car is safe, up high behind the RV protected from most all roadway hazards.

Our dolly is a solid steel frame that has only two moving parts...the wheels and brakes. It is so simple to use, requires very rare service, and can stand-up against a wall to store.

The dolly rarely even gets unhooked from our RV. But when it does, it is easy to move by hand or simply connected to a lightweight hitch on the toad, that doubles as a mount for a bike rack

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The decision was easy for us since a Demco toe dolly was included with the MH when we bought it. Picked it up in IL, drove car onto dolly and came home. No work needed on toad to bring it home.

When we travel we take whichever car we want. No additional prep is necessary.
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I flat tow 93 Aerostar XLT longwherl base van. Only issue is unhooking and hooking up drive shaft. Got it down to 15 minutes+15 minutes to hook/unhook van. Van paid for, runs great, ugly as hell.
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Thanks all for the advice,

Whether I dolly or flat tow I will be toad shopping in the spring. It will have to be a hatchback or small SUV as have a 60lb lab and need to carry Kayaks.
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Hi,

This is not a flat vs tow dolly thread hooking up and disconnecting thread.

My question is does it make more pracitical and economical sense to dolly tow 3,000$ toad? If the car needs a major repair just trade in for something else.

This would not be for full time use and only to tow for about 3,000 miles a year.

What do folk think?

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My solution to the toad "problem" is to get a car trailer.

1. NO COST for brackets, towbars, etc
2. NO FUSS with braking systems
3. You can BACK UP.
4. No wear on the toad.
5. You can bring along an old beater, your chrome truck, momma's garage sale car, or your vintage convertible ......at your option.


(....and you have a utility trailer for.....moving stuff )



In the long run.......MUCH cheaper, and a WHOLE LOT less fuss.
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Dolly or four on the floor

[QUOTE=Unicorn Driver;4387834]Hi,

This is not a flat vs tow dolly thread hooking up and disconnecting thread.

My question is does it make more pracitical and economical sense to dolly tow 3,000$ toad? If the car needs a major repair just trade in for something else.

This would not be for full time use and only to tow for about 3,000 miles a year.

What do folk think?

Thanks,
I will never dolly again after pulling 4 on the ground. Find a toad by going to blue ox and putting in the information they request on a base plate and then you will know if the toad can be pulled 4 on the floor. Much quicker to hook-up and unhook. No worries about putting the dolly where ever. Unhook push the tow bar up and you are done. With the cost of the everything, base plate, tow bar, light system wiring and installation if you shop around you might be able to get it all done for about $1400. Only thing I did not include was the braking system which you can by used for $300 to $400. Still about the same as dolly. I used a dolly one time pulling my toad 2000 miles put the car and dolly up for say when I got to my destination and bought a cheap 4 speed car and tow kit for four on the floor and will always pull with all wheels down. Never had any luck with dolly straps staying tight and it was always a pain to take off and put on. Good luck on your decision...
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After a new dolly tire blew at 65 MH, never tow one again that way.
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My solution to the toad "problem" is to get a car trailer.

1. NO COST for brackets, towbars, etc
2. NO FUSS with braking systems
3. You can BACK UP.
4. No wear on the toad.
5. You can bring along an old beater, your chrome truck, momma's garage sale car, or your vintage convertible ......at your option.


(....and you have a utility trailer for.....moving stuff )



In the long run.......MUCH cheaper, and a WHOLE LOT less fuss.

Hi,

I would consider a trailer for my wifes car but the cannot find one light enough.
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Hi,

This is not a flat vs tow dolly thread hooking up and disconnecting thread.

My question is does it make more pracitical and economical sense to dolly tow 3,000$ toad? If the car needs a major repair just trade in for something else.

This would not be for full time use and only to tow for about 3,000 miles a year.

What do folk think?

Thanks,
I will never dolly again after pulling 4 on the ground. Find a toad by going to blue ox and putting in the information they request on a base plate and then you will know if the toad can be pulled 4 on the floor. Much quicker to hook-up and unhook. No worries about putting the dolly where ever. Unhook push the tow bar up and you are done. With the cost of the everything, base plate, tow bar, light system wiring and installation if you shop around you might be able to get it all done for about $1400. Only thing I did not include was the braking system which you can by used for $300 to $400. Still about the same as dolly. I used a dolly one time pulling my toad 2000 miles put the car and dolly up for say when I got to my destination and bought a cheap 4 speed car and tow kit for four on the floor and will always pull with all wheels down. Never had any luck with dolly straps staying tight and it was always a pain to take off and put on. Good luck on your decision...
When I looked recently 3200$ was the cheapest price I got.
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We did the math, $ you spend on tow package, parts ect. brake set up, then the install, vs using Uber,Lyft considering your near a town, then again you can rent if you have to. At the end for us you can do a lot of Uber, Lyft... For that 4 grand to tow. And less worries. Been rving for 7 years. if
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We did the math, $ you spend on tow package, parts ect. brake set up, then the install, vs using Uber,Lyft considering your near a town, then again you can rent if you have to. At the end for us you can do a lot of Uber, Lyft... For that 4 grand to tow. And less worries. Been rving for 7 years. if
Hi,

Moat of our trips in rural Michigan so no Lyft or Uber.
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