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Old 01-24-2016, 09:59 AM   #1
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We just got back into a class A and I'm sort of going by memory from when we had one before.
If I remember right we used to get about 2 MPG less when we flat towed a '98 Wrangler behind the 35' 1999 Pace Arrow. We'll now be towing a 2007 Toyota Highlander on a dolly. Towed weight of about 4500# is close to equal what it was before.
We haven't done enough with this 36' 2012 Bounder 35K to have any averages yet but IF the MPG difference is correct I get the following numbers.
W/O the Toad:
4000 miles driven at 7 MPG and $2.00 per gallon average is 571.43 GL used at a cost of $1142.86.
With the Toad:
4000 miles driven at 5 MPG and $2.00 per gallon average is 800 GL used at a cost of $1600.00.
The amount saved is $457.14 and a rental car at our destination is about $300 for the week so we save some $$ by not towing the car.

Is the 2 MPG difference about what others experience or is my guesstimate way off?
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Old 01-24-2016, 10:03 AM   #2
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Is the 2 MPG difference about what others experience or is my guesstimate way off?
We don't tow, but from what I have read it is way off. But since you are cost conscious about gas prices (why shouldn't you be) consider the Good Sam discount at PFJs, and the PennFed Visa card. The Visa is free and gives you unlimited 5% back on all gas purchases.
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We don't tow, but from what I have read it is way off. But since you are cost conscious about gas prices (why shouldn't you be) consider the Good Sam discount at PFJs, and the PennFed Visa card. The Visa is free and gives you unlimited 5% back on all gas purchases.
Way off which way? High or low???
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Old 01-24-2016, 11:18 AM   #4
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My mileage on a 35' Bounder towing a car was almost the same ( maybe 1/4 -1/2 mpg difference ) as when I wasn't towing. If you keep the tow haul on all the time , it will cost you a little over 1 mpg.
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We just got back into a class A and I'm sort of going by memory from when we had one before.

If I remember right we used to get about 2 MPG less when we flat towed a '98 Wrangler behind the 35' 1999 Pace Arrow. We'll now be towing a 2007 Toyota Highlander on a dolly. Towed weight of about 4500# is close to equal what it was before.

We haven't done enough with this 36' 2012 Bounder 35K to have any averages yet but IF the MPG difference is correct I get the following numbers.

W/O the Toad:

4000 miles driven at 7 MPG and $2.00 per gallon average is 571.43 GL used at a cost of $1142.86.

With the Toad:

4000 miles driven at 5 MPG and $2.00 per gallon average is 800 GL used at a cost of $1600.00.

The amount saved is $457.14 and a rental car at our destination is about $300 for the week so we save some $$ by not towing the car.



Is the 2 MPG difference about what others experience or is my guesstimate way off?

4000 miles in a week is about 570 miles per day. I would stock the fridge and sit in my lawn chair and try to recover from the miles each day! No toad required if you stay put.
I get 7.5 with or without the toad. I think your 2012 will do better than your 1999. Guess: about 0.5 mpg. Toad wins!
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4000 miles in a week is about 570 miles per day. I would stock the fridge and sit in my lawn chair and try to recover from the miles each day! No toad required if you stay put.
I get 7.5 with or without the toad. I think your 2012 will do better than your 1999. Guess: about 0.5 mpg. Toad wins!

Dave, sorry for not being more clear. 6 days to do the 2K there and 6 more days to do the 2K back with a week on site.
I would actually be pretty happy with anything over 7 MPG. We have another 2000 mile trip planned for June where we'll take the toad so I'll have some actual data then.
The fridge will definitely be stocked though!
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No idea as we've never gone far enough without a towed to know. The VMS says we get 7.6 mpg so that's what I figure on.
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Dave, sorry for not being more clear. 6 days to do the 2K there and 6 more days to do the 2K back with a week on site.

I would actually be pretty happy with anything over 7 MPG. We have another 2000 mile trip planned for June where we'll take the toad so I'll have some actual data then.

The fridge will definitely be stocked though!

Ah yes! Much better.
My bet is a delta of about 1mpg, maybe less, with the newer drive train: power, efficiency, better gearing. That said, it would be cheaper with a toad than a rental. After 16 years of "toading" we are well spoiled.
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I don't really notice much of a difference in MPG when I am towing. Maybe a slight acceleration difference when starting from a stop, but nothing else.
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Our coach gets about 1/2 mpg less when we're towing.

Having said that, I don't think you asked this, but I'm going to submit it. I don't think we would ever consider not towing. Here's why.

First trip we made without a toad, when we arrived at our destination the car rental companies had run out of cars! Oops!

Often there are no car rental companies at our destination.

We had a mechanical problem once with the coach on the road, which turned out to be not much of a deal because we had the toad. A quick drive for repairs and in a short time we had the coach back up and running. Without the toad this would have been a completely different story.

So, when our coach pulls out of the yard, our toad is always right behind it.

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I would be surprised if the difference is over 0.5 mpg.
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