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Old 04-08-2013, 10:23 AM   #29
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I think the XRC bumpers take a 3/4" D-ring which has a 7/8" pin. Is it possible the hole on yours is 7/8" on the d ring tabs instead of 1
This is a key question! I looked through all the Smittybilt D-rings and I don't see any that are larger than 3/4" by 7/8" diameter. Not really being versed in D-rings I am guessing the 3/4" dimension is the width at the opening.
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Yes i agree, key question.
From what i can tell there are two d-ring sizes, 5/8 and 3/4. The 5/8 has a 3/4" pin diameter, and the 3/4 has a 7/8" pin diameter. What i haven't been able to tell is the gap size. I suspect you are correct, 3/4 d-ring is 3/4" gap. Not at home now so i can't measure them.
I called blue ox and etrailer (blue ox dealer) this morning and the people i talked with were not familiar with the "clips". They are both researching and going to call me back.
I'll update this thread once i hear from them
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Thanks so much! Looking forward to your report.
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I just got off the phone with Blue Ox (Carla wasn't available) and they are saying the Clips will not be available for a couple more weeks.

Unfortunately, I have a trip planned for weekend of May 10th so Im afraid Im going to have to go with the Roadmaster tow bar and the Warrior D-Ring Adapters. Pretty bummed out since I really wanted the Blue Ox tow bar but there just doesn't seem to be a way to mount them to D-rings without the Clips. :(
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Yes, this is a challenge - differing hole sizes and thickness of D-ring mounts from differing bumper vendors. When I towed from the D-rings mounts I bought a bracket adapter and modified it to work with my bumper.
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Unfortunately, I have a trip planned for weekend of May 10th so Im afraid Im going to have to go with the Roadmaster tow bar and the Warrior D-Ring Adapters. :(
What Roadmaster tow bar are you using? Is this a "know to work" combination? Thanks for your research into this.
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When I towed from the D-rings mounts I bought a bracket adapter and modified it to work with my bumper.
How are you towing your Rubicon currently?
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BO brackets on aftermarket bumper - #8 and #12 in this thread.
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BO brackets on aftermarket bumper - #8 and #12 in this thread.
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This is a key question! I looked through all the Smittybilt D-rings and I don't see any that are larger than 3/4" by 7/8" diameter. Not really being versed in D-rings I am guessing the 3/4" dimension is the width at the opening.
I'm puzzled by this, and all I can think is that Smittybilt changed the xrc?? I measured mine with digital calipers and the holes were .998 and .999 of an inch.
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A standard "3/4" shackle(D-Ring) is made of metal that is 3/4" diameter around the loop, the pin size is 7/8" and the "gap" is ~1 1/4" in all that I've seen.

Most shackle attachment points are drilled to 1" and vary between a slim 3/8" on cheaper bumpers to a full 1". The Metalcloak bolt on tow adapters linked by a couple of us above are 1 1/8" wide as they are designed to be used as tow adapters. For thinner mounts one could use shims to make up the difference if slop is a problem.
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What Roadmaster tow bar are you using? Is this a "know to work" combination? Thanks for your research into this.
It is not a know to work combo for me but it does seem like al the parts will fit. The Warrior brakets are designed exactly for mating D-ring tabs to a "standard" tow bar. The whole issue for me is that I prefer a Blue Ox tow bar, primarily due to all the good reviews on this forum, and since Blue Ox has a "non standard" way of attaching the tow bars to the base plate the Warrior brackets will not fit onto the Blue Ox bars.
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My plans are starting to come together.

I ordered a SMI Air Force One brake system today and scheduled an install with a local RV dealer. It was harder than I thought to find someone who would install the ARO system being 35 miles from downtown Chicago. Called 5 different places before I found one with experience and willing to install the system.

Ordered a new XRC bumper and winch combo for my Cherokee today. That will be an upcoming project.

Lastly, I decided to wait for the Blue Ox bars and clips. Hopefully they will get here before the week of the 29th since that is the date for the ARO install and I want to be able to tow the Cherokee to test the system.
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Forgot to mention,

I think the variance in hole size and D-Ring pin diameter is due to design and manufacturing tolerances to account for powder coat, paint, sand, mud, temperature expansion, etc... so it is very likely that the hole size in the tab is 1" and the diameter of the pins are 7/8"
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