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Old 09-19-2016, 11:29 AM   #197
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Not sure what you are driving now, but a good used JK Sahara will give you a more of an SUVlike ride. It has more noise reduction, and maybe a somewhat softer ride. Another option would be, and just because it's your ONLY "car" a Grand Cherokee 4wd. That might also might suit your needs.
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Old 09-19-2016, 11:36 AM   #198
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We just upgraded from a 2003, 2 door lifted, wheels.etc.....to a 2014, 4 door Polar edition. Bought it used with 25,000 miles on it for $18,000 less than it was new. Wife wanted that color and a painted hard top. We travel with our kids (teens) so the 4 door was a plus for us. It drives and rides nice, not what you would expect for a Wrangler. This is Wrangler # 6 for us. I still feel they are great Toad choice.
Resale value mentioned above... I paid $9500 for the 2 door 5 years ago with 102,000 miles stock, put maybe $2500 into it with mods (did the work myself, bought some stuff used) sold it for $11,200 5 years later with 125,000 miles on it.
I agree, her Jeep new was just shy of $50,000 which is insane!
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We just upgraded from a 2003, 2 door lifted, wheels.etc.....to a 2014, 4 door Polar edition. Bought it used with 25,000 miles on it for $18,000 less than it was new. Wife wanted that color and a painted hard top. We travel with our kids (teens) so the 4 door was a plus for us. It drives and rides nice, not what you would expect for a Wrangler. This is Wrangler # 6 for us. I still feel they are great Toad choice.
Resale value mentioned above... I paid $9500 for the 2 door 5 years ago with 102,000 miles stock, put maybe $2500 into it with mods (did the work myself, bought some stuff used) sold it for $11,200 5 years later with 125,000 miles on it.
I agree, her Jeep new was just shy of $50,000 which is insane!
Oh yeah, $50K or, close to it, is pretty much the "Norm" for higher end Wranglers. WE did a lot of researching in both new and used (used being around a '12 and up) and, out the door pricing for what we wanted was guaranteed to be $45K or up, and closer to $48K. So, us paying $41K out the door for a '15 with 27 on the clock was a good deal and, we've got plenty of factory warranty left.

But, as I stated way earlier in this thread, everything's a bit high, EXCEPT for a cost of living raise. A good friend and his wife came over for dinner night before last. He was driving his new F-250 Ford Truck with the Diesel. His truck is NOT THE TOP OF THE LINE and he paid, right at $61,000.00 for it.

So, we live, we pay, we have fun, we die. End of story!
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Does the S automatically get you taller tires and wheels? Some of the basic 4 drs really looked like they had stumpy tires and wheels and too close to the ground.
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Oh yeah, $50K or, close to it, is pretty much the "Norm" for higher end Wranglers. WE did a lot of researching in both new and used (used being around a '12 and up) and, out the door pricing for what we wanted was guaranteed to be $45K or up, and closer to $48K. So, us paying $41K out the door for a '15 with 27 on the clock was a good deal and, we've got plenty of factory warranty left.

But, as I stated way earlier in this thread, everything's a bit high, EXCEPT for a cost of living raise. A good friend and his wife came over for dinner night before last. He was driving his new F-250 Ford Truck with the Diesel. His truck is NOT THE TOP OF THE LINE and he paid, right at $61,000.00 for it.

So, we live, we pay, we have fun, we die. End of story!
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Scott... It really boils down to "what it's worth to each one personally"...For me, I'd take the Ford Pickup over the same dollar amount for the jeep...I just can't do it, but certainly don't fault those that do...you earned it...you spend it the way you like.
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Scott... It really boils down to "what it's worth to each one personally"...For me, I'd take the Ford Pickup over the same dollar amount for the jeep...I just can't do it, but certainly don't fault those that do...you earned it...you spend it the way you like.
Wundertaker,
The problem is, many or, maybe most, start to bring LOGIC into the equation. We just can't see logically, how a "Jeep" can cost that much. But, it is what it is. We only got so much time on this earth, so, we're going out happy.
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Not sure what you are driving now, but a good used JK Sahara will give you a more of an SUVlike ride. It has more noise reduction, and maybe a somewhat softer ride. Another option would be, and just because it's your ONLY "car" a Grand Cherokee 4wd. That might also might suit your needs.
I do not believe there is any difference in sound deadening. A Sahara vs lower models could actually have a stiffer ride due to 18in wheel/tire package and 16-17in on the lower models. Depending on its tow package they could have the same spring/shock combo. Thus the Sahara adds painted fenders and I believe some electronic interior upgrades like heated seats and I forget what else.




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What would be everyone's suggestion for a "middle of the road" JEEP. Automatic, 4 WD of course...2 or 4 doors ok...more for highway/very light trail riding...you know...for older farts...like ME Can't afford new and this would be my wife's and my "only vehicle"...so...have to keep my honey happy.... Any ideas???
It really boils down to money, if you can swing it the 2012+ jk/JKU is preferred due to a much better engine, like 90+hp better. Also been various tweeks throughout the jeep but the biggest by far is the engine. I had a 08 JKU and presently have a 16 JKU, no comparison in power plus better mpg

In regards to which one, depends on your use. The 2dr I would say feels lighter on its feet, I believe has a 6-8ft smaller diameter turning radius however the shorter size results in a more bouncy ride. Good and bad with both.... I wanted the extra room to haul stuff thus JKU/4dr is what I did.

Fwiw you can get a new JKU sport s for $30k ish with a few options. With the 17's hitting the showroom floors in a few weeks the 12's will be 5yrs old, should be able to save some $$$
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The problem is, many or, maybe most, start to bring LOGIC into the equation. We just can't see logically, how a "Jeep" can cost that much. But, it is what it is. We only got so much time on this earth, so, we're going out happy.
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Be careful with a 2012 JK or any other Jeep with the Pentastar. They had some cylinder head problems. They will be out of normal warranty next year.
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Does the S automatically get you taller tires and wheels? Some of the basic 4 drs really looked like they had stumpy tires and wheels and too close to the ground.
If you are referring to the larger offroad tires I believe that starts with the willy's trim

However for usually less then a grand you can get take offs from someone who purchased a willy's-rubicon and do not want the oem wheel/tire package.

The sport, sport s up to the Sahara come will all season tires, Sahara has 18's and the lower trims come, base sport comes with 16's if I recall with 17's being a option.
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What would be everyone's suggestion for a "middle of the road" JEEP. Automatic, 4 WD of course...2 or 4 doors ok...more for highway/very light trail riding...you know...for older farts...like ME Can't afford new and this would be my wife's and my "only vehicle"...so...have to keep my honey happy.... Any ideas???
Don't overlook the 1999 to 2006 WJ Grand Cherokee. A 2004 Overland would be perfect. They are great to tow. Are far more comfortable than any TJ, JK or JKU and cost considerably less. You get leather seats, sun roof, more power, power windows and more. Give it a 2 or 3" lift and a set of 31 or 32" tires and you will have no trouble with mild to medium difficult trails. It's still a JEEP and you could drive it across the country in luxury and comfort.
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If you are referring to the larger offroad tires I believe that starts with the willy's trim

However for usually less then a grand you can get take offs from someone who purchased a willy's-rubicon and do not want the oem wheel/tire package.

The sport, sport s up to the Sahara come will all season tires, Sahara has 18's and the lower trims come, base sport comes with 16's if I recall with 17's being a option.
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I don't know if allowed to tell folks we are about to trade our Jeep. 2014 Wrangler
Somebody weigh in and then I will not or will post what it is?
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You can post it for free in the classified section and then announce it here, or wherever, that you did such a thing.
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