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09-03-2011, 07:58 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Choctaw Beach, FL
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Are license plates required to be illuminated at night when a vehicle becomes a TOAD? My Blue Ox wiring kit did not come with a connection or instructions.
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09-03-2011, 08:03 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Location: Newark, DE
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Apparently not as no one has them lit as far as I know and we have not had any reports of members being cited by LEOs.
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09-03-2011, 08:10 AM
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Location: Fowlerville, Mich.
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I do believe they have to be lighted. I know you can get stopped if they are not.
Greg
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09-03-2011, 09:47 AM
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National RV Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Federal Way, Wa.
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RCW 46.37.050
Here is the Washington State law which clearly requires (much to my surprise) illumination with a white light on basically any towed vehicle.
Tail lamps.
(1) After January 1, 1964, every motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, and pole trailer, and any other vehicle which is being drawn at the end of a combination of vehicles, shall be equipped with at least two tail lamps mounted on the rear, which, when lighted as required in RCW 46.37.020, shall emit a red light plainly visible from a distance of one thousand feet to the rear, except that passenger cars manufactured or assembled prior to January 1, 1939, shall have at least one tail lamp. On a combination of vehicles only the tail lamps on the rearmost vehicle need actually be seen from the distance specified. On vehicles equipped with more than one tail lamp, the lamps shall be mounted on the same level and as widely spaced laterally as practicable.
(2) Every tail lamp upon every vehicle shall be located at a height of not more than seventy-two inches nor less than fifteen inches.
(3) Either a tail lamp or a separate lamp shall be so constructed and placed as to illuminate with a white light the rear registration plate and render it clearly legible from a distance of fifty feet to the rear. Any tail lamp or tail lamps, together with any separate lamp or lamps for illuminating the rear registration plate, shall be so wired as to be lighted whenever the head lamps or auxiliary driving lamps are lighted.
This may vary state to state but suffice it to say if Washington has it then many will so illuminating will cover you no matter where yu travel-----hummmm learn something new every day---thanks for asking the question I would not be surprid=sed if this is news to a lot of people---I know I never gave it a thought. But I do not drive much at night.
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09-03-2011, 09:55 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club
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Required in most states. Ticket depends on LEO having PMS or not.
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09-03-2011, 10:19 AM
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"Ticket depends on LEO having PMS or not."
Or the person being stopped being a total a&* or not.
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09-03-2011, 10:34 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Glendora Ca.
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Mine is lit with tail lites.
Mike
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09-03-2011, 10:39 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner Monaco Owners Club
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Location: Glendora Ca.
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Blindhanger, it is part of the running lite circuit. If you have working tail lites it should be lit. May be a bad bulb or dirty contact.
Mike
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09-03-2011, 11:26 AM
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Newmar Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Michigan
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I was stopped in PA once for the license plate light not being illuminated but I was driving the vehicle. They may not require it if your towing. Different states probably have different laws so I guess you have to take your chances. A check with the DMV in the states you will be traveling could be an option but also seems like a PITA.
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09-03-2011, 11:52 AM
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Vintage RV Owners Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Port Hadlock, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mfire1339
Blindhanger, it is part of the running lite circuit. If you have working tail lites it should be lit. May be a bad bulb or dirty contact.
Mike
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Took the words right out of my mouth!
I'll add that I recently fixed mine- it wasn't working due to its being badly grounded...
Francesca
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09-03-2011, 01:07 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner Damon Owners Club
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The answer, at least in MI, depends on if the car can be driven in "Tow" mode once it's disconnected.
That said, the license plate lamp is normally on the tail light circuit so if the tail lights are on the license plate lamp SHOULD be and the tow light kit DOES include that lead.
(Michigan law allows a car to be towed w/o plates if
1: It is towed "Off the ground" or 2: It can NOT be driven under it's own power.. So my towed, which could not be driven under it's own power in tow mode, woudl have been legal w/o plates or light on them. Still. it was lit.
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09-03-2011, 01:28 PM
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Vintage RV Owners Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Port Hadlock, Washington
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Doesn't "can't be driven under its own power" mean a vehicle that doesn't run due to some mechanical defect?
I think a "toad" that's had some part of its systems purposely disabled so it can be towed is still an "able-bodied" vehicle, and subject to laws that govern them.
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09-03-2011, 06:17 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: May 2011
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Drive during the day and avoid any problems.
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09-03-2011, 07:25 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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While disconnected, turn your towed vehicle's headlights on, go back and see if the bulb lights up.
Then you will know if you have a problem. Others have stated it is part of a circuit.
Kerry
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