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Old 02-17-2014, 09:07 PM   #1
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Lost 2002 Acura when towing w/dolly

Four years ago on the WV interstate I lost my toad when towed with a dolly. We hit a huge pot hole, the hitch came off and both safety chains connected to dolly broke!! It was 5 am and toad ended up in out side lane against center rail on the dolly.

Lucky a 18 wheeler saw it and stopped and got on CB and called 911, we heard a noise and my wife looked out rear window and gave me bad news. I called 911 and cops already knew about it. Both dolly and toad were totaled.

Never will use a dolly again and always will use a aux brake with electrical breakaway cable.

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Forgetting about wether or not the hitch itself was tight

Did you have brakes on the dolly with a break a way feature

Were the safety chains crossed

Not knocking what happened to you or how you were towing I only want to point out the same thing could of happened with a tow bar or trailer.

The same questions would pertain to any of those styles of towing.

Needless to say toads and dollies can be replaced and at least you and your wife were not hurt.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:22 PM   #3
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Master Tow Dolly w/No Brakes, chains were crossed and MH & Toad height were equal, I have learned a lot since then and yes we very lucky.

I have towed a big sailboat (21 ft 2500# heavy swing keel ) for years with no trouble.

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Thank you. Again I was not questioning how it was towed to point fingers I just wanted to know.

When I got my one and only bus which I still have I made a first test tow using a car carrier and 98 Explorer Sport with a 400 test tow, then used a dolly with it same test route and dropped the Sport in Green Bay at a stop sign because I let the left strap get loose. I then tried it four down before it lost a timing chain (Sport) at less than 100K miles.

I've since towed the MKX almost 20K four down as the preferred choice of towing.
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Well, it was certainly NOT the Tow Dolly's fault!

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Old 02-20-2014, 12:31 PM   #6
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Curious what "hitch came off" means. Does that mean the dolly female attachment point came off of the "ball" Then the chains broke and buh-bye? Trying to better understand scenario. OR, did the "pin" in the receiver fail and pull out the hitch from the motorhome.

Man, glad no-one was hurt. Also, wonder why cables failed.
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Master Tow Dolly w/No Brakes, chains were crossed and MH & Toad height were equal, I have learned a lot since then and yes we very lucky.

I have towed a big sailboat (21 ft 2500# heavy swing keel ) for years with no trouble.

Bob

Was waiting for more details too...?

Like akeyzoo asks, please share what "hitch came off" means.

I have well over 10,000 miles on my second hand dolly with no issue. Use a lock vs. key pin on the hitch coupling (but that wouldn't make a difference) and cross that safety chains.

And, as said - brakes should be used and should have a break-away system just in case. But unfortunately it is not required by law in many places so even those who flat tow, often do so without brakes

What is different about the boat trailer (except that most probably is has surge brakes with a break-away system)? Our dolly had disc, surge brakes - just for this reason.

Knowledge is power - please share what you learned
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It was not the tow dolly's fault by any shade of imagination. Was the coupler tight and locked? Were the safety chains adequate for the load? And you stated no break away braking system. Sounds mostly like an operator error to me.

The same thing can happen with an improperly set up 4 down dinghy.

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I am wondering if the ball, was the correct size? We use a 2 inch ball/ and we have surge breaks and a break away cable but if the toad didn't have breaks, well this is a Break sell point to me anyways.
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I don't tow a dolly or trailer with any other type of hitch. I can't lose the dolly or trailer. Glad everyone was safe.
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I don't tow a dolly or trailer with any other type of hitch. I can't lose the dolly or trailer. Glad everyone was safe.

A pintle hook is not designed to prevent standard trailer coupler from coming off of the hitch ball. There is also a good possibility that the top portion of the pintle hook would not be able to close far enough to insert the pin through the pintle hook. The top of the coupler will sit further above the hitch ball than what the pintle hook was designed for.
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A pintle hook is not designed to prevent standard trailer coupler from coming off of the hitch ball. There is also a good possibility that the top portion of the pintle hook would not be able to close far enough to insert the pin through the pintle hook. The top of the coupler will sit further above the hitch ball than what the pintle hook was designed for.
Pintle type hitches come in hook and ball type, some are adjustable and are generally used for heavier tonque and load weights. The pintle arm fits easily over the ball and allows the trailer coupler to rotate and lock and move normally. This along with the coupler locking mechanism provide added security to keep the assembly in place. On a pintle ball assemble, not a pintle ring/hook assemble what is the pintle arm designed for if not to assist in keeping the coupler seated on the ball?
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Pintle type hitches come in hook and ball type, some are adjustable and are generally used for heavier tonque and load weights. The pintle arm fits easily over the ball and allows the trailer coupler to rotate and lock and move normally. This along with the coupler locking mechanism provide added security to keep the assembly in place. On a pintle ball assemble, not a pintle ring/hook assemble what is the pintle arm designed for if not to assist in keeping the coupler seated on the ball?
I assume that's a Draw-Tite. Specs are a bit incomplete on their website.

How much can you adjust the "pinch" when locking? Thanks.
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The pintle and ball combo is just a either or you can tow either type of trailer hitch.
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