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Old 01-27-2015, 10:47 AM   #15
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I'd like to know why the baseplate was 2 miles away and not still attached to the towbar.
Me too.
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:51 AM   #16
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I'd like to know why the baseplate was 2 miles away and not still attached to the towbar.
Very good point. I guess the plate and bumper would have impacted road and then shear from the tow bar, as the car is already free. The car had to be free first.


A breakaway brake system that uses a "switch" that is normally open (NO) as most of them are, will not function if it is sheared off the toad either. The wiring will be "open circuit" therefore the aux. brake system will think it is completely normal. Most of the installations I have seen have the switch mounted on the bumper or plate, the two parts left on the side of the road in this story.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:49 AM   #17
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Well said JDL--point is for many tow systems, if the base plate shears away from the toad frame, in most cases, the safety cables and aux brake system are rendered useless. Attaching the safety cables to a separate point on the frame, or installing secondary cables to the baseplate are the only ways to secure the toad from a breakaway--anything else and you are just hoping.....
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I just talked with tech support at Roadmaster and told them about the incident. They told me that all of their baseplates attach directly to the frame. That made me feel better!
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The car was a Chevy Equinox. If you go here and look at all the assembly pictures it's a weird setup. One of the pictures illustrates special safety cables that are attached to the "actual" frame. From the crash-site photos it looks like maybe the bolts sheared and took the bumper/support/baseplate/safety chains/breakaway off in one swell foop. If the special cables existed, they probably didn't do such a great job.

I have no idea whether it was a Blue Ox setup ... pics are for frame illustration only.

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As others mentioned, a break-away switch becomes irrelevant if the entire assembly gets yanked off the toad. You would need to also have the switch body safety-cabled much further back onto the toad frame.
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I just talked with tech support at Roadmaster and told them about the incident. They told me that all of their baseplates attach directly to the frame. That made me feel better!
Yes and Locktite Red is recommended in the installation. I used it when I installed and torqued them myself.
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At about 8 minutes you'll see the special cables attached to the sub-frame. Anybody want to guess why these are needed ....

Sure would like to see a better picture of what they found on the roadside.

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I guess anything is possible, but I can't see a baseplate breaking loose from the frame unless it was not installed properly!
I agree.
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It looks like the base plate was just attached to the bumper and not to the frame take a look at the shot of the frame and its a clean cut look at the bottom of the bumper and everything it attached to it. You would think it should be frame mounted something is goofy with it
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I'm not sure what set up this was but it is certainly not Blueox. Can't tell for sure, but I don't even see a base plate. Looks like the towing mechanism was attached to the bumper which is not made to pull from.
With Blueox, the base plate is bolted to the frame directly with additional safety cables to prevent anything like this happening.
On my CRV, the OEM Bumper is removed and the baseplate installed in its place by bolting directly to the frame and two additional safety cables to hold things together should the bolts let go.
Personally, I think the installer of this set up should go into hiding as I can see a lawsuit building unless it was a DYI deal.
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It looks like the base plate was just attached to the bumper and not to the frame take a look at the shot of the frame and its a clean cut look at the bottom of the bumper and everything it attached to it. You would think it should be frame mounted something is goofy with it
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Yep. On a Blue Ox there are eight bolts on the sides tying it to the frame and a couple more underneath. No way all of those bolts are going to sheer. It obviously wasn't a Blue Ox baseplate. Something is definately goofy with that setup.

Also the owner seemed unusually jovial about it, also a bit reticent.
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I'm not sure what set up this was but it is certainly not Blueox. Can't tell for sure, but I don't even see a base plate. Looks like the towing mechanism was attached to the bumper which is not made to pull from.
With Blueox, the base plate is bolted to the frame directly with additional safety cables to prevent anything like this happening.
On my CRV, the OEM Bumper is removed and the baseplate installed in its place by bolting directly to the frame and two additional safety cables to hold things together should the bolts let go.
Personally, I think the installer of this set up should go into hiding as I can see a lawsuit building unless it was a DYI deal.
Whole lot of assumptions ... it is irrelevant how a baseplate is attached to a CRV. The vehicle in the news was identified as a Chevy Equinox.
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I guess it depends on the baseplate and how it is mounted. My Roadmaster baseplate bolts to the frame with several large, high-strength bolts that are torqued during installation. I would think that ALL of them would have to shear off in order for the baseplate to separate from the frame, which would be highly unlikely. But, like I said, I guess anything is possible!
There was a post some time back where a man had is bracket break off and take part of the frame with it. He totally blamed RoadMaster, but a look at his pictures showed that bolts had come loose and fallen out, then the other side pulled the bolts through the frame. Not properly installed and lack of maintenance combined.
RoadMaster says you need to check the bolts, but I never have!
And, no, that's not a RoadMaster setup. Looks like a Demco to me.
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