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Old 03-23-2014, 10:57 PM   #1
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M and G braking system

Bought the brut, not happy; smell brakes after unhooking for mh, brake cable stripping off black rubber lining and have only towed twice for a total of maybe 80 to 100 miles.

Thinking of going to the M & G air braking system, any comments.
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Old 03-23-2014, 11:18 PM   #2
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If you have air brakes on the coach, the M&G is the best brake out there. I towed over 100,000 miles with one and never a problem. My buddy had one on his gas coach and had no problems with it either. If your toad is compatable, install one and you won't be sorry.
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Old 03-23-2014, 11:41 PM   #3
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If you have air brakes on the coach, the M&G is the best brake out there. I towed over 100,000 miles with one and never a problem. My buddy had one on his gas coach and had no problems with it either. If your toad is compatable, install one and you won't be sorry.
In my opinion, M & G is the finest braking system available for towing behind any coach with air brakes.

The M & G inserts a cylinder in-between your power booster and the master cylinder on your towed vehicle. The model for your vehicle is sized exactly to give you just the right amount of braking for any given brake pressure in your coach and is proportional, so if you press harder on the brakes in your coach, the car brakes harder.

The optional breakaway kit stores some air in a small tank in your car and applies the brakes fully if your car becomes separated from the coach. Everything is installed under the hood. Nothing in the car or attached to the brake pedal. No cables to break or fray. The system does not depress the pedal in the car, so the brake lights on the car do not interfere with the turn signal/brake light signals from the coach. When you connect or disconnect the car from the coach the only thing you have to do is connect/disconnect the air hose. Easy Peasy!

The system is priced very competitively with the other systems on the market.

We love ours and highly recommend it to anyone who has a vehicle that they make it for.
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:16 PM   #4
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In my opinion, M & G is the finest braking system available for towing behind any coach with air brakes.

The M & G inserts a cylinder in-between your power booster and the master cylinder on your towed vehicle. The model for your vehicle is sized exactly to give you just the right amount of braking for any given brake pressure in your coach and is proportional, so if you press harder on the brakes in your coach, the car brakes harder.

The optional breakaway kit stores some air in a small tank in your car and applies the brakes fully if your car becomes separated from the coach. Everything is installed under the hood. Nothing in the car or attached to the brake pedal. No cables to break or fray. The system does not depress the pedal in the car, so the brake lights on the car do not interfere with the turn signal/brake light signals from the coach. When you connect or disconnect the car from the coach the only thing you have to do is connect/disconnect the air hose. Easy Peasy!

The system is priced very competitively with the other systems on the market.

We love ours and highly recommend it to anyone who has a vehicle that they make it for.
I completely agree! Very accurate assessment in my opinion. I don't currently have it as my toad started on fire while towing, but if I go back with a 4 wheels down the M & G would be my only choice for brakes.
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X4! Had our's installed last year and love, love, love it!
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I've owned both m&g and Airforce one. The m&g is very good, but the Airforce one is just as good. One good thing with the Airforce one it can be moved toad to toad when you trade. The m&g is vehicle model specific and not interchangeable so you have to buy a new one or trade, at a price, if you buy a new toad. Just telling you there are options just as good and effective.
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Call M and G to make sure it will work on your car. It will not work on on a Chevy sonic, not enough room. So went with the SMI Air Force One.
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Brake cable stripping off black lining?? Not sure what you mean but it sounds like it's not tied up right and drags on the ground. Could also be that the unit in the TOAD (If that's the unit with the brake smell) is not installed properly or out of adjustment.
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In my opinion, M & G is the finest braking system available for towing behind any coach with air brakes.

The M & G inserts a cylinder in-between your power booster and the master cylinder on your towed vehicle. The model for your vehicle is sized exactly to give you just the right amount of braking for any given brake pressure in your coach and is proportional, so if you press harder on the brakes in your coach, the car brakes harder.

The optional breakaway kit stores some air in a small tank in your car and applies the brakes fully if your car becomes separated from the coach. Everything is installed under the hood. Nothing in the car or attached to the brake pedal. No cables to break or fray. The system does not depress the pedal in the car, so the brake lights on the car do not interfere with the turn signal/brake light signals from the coach. When you connect or disconnect the car from the coach the only thing you have to do is connect/disconnect the air hose. Easy Peasy!

The system is priced very competitively with the other systems on the market.

We love ours and highly recommend it to anyone who has a vehicle that they make it for.
Yup. Very well described. We've just had ours installed, and have taken a few trips with the rig. So far, so good. Compared to braking distances before we towed, I can not discern any difference with a 6,000 pound towed behind the coach - likewise, the yukon feels exactly as it did before, no change whatsoever despite the added air system connects.

It's seems like a very good choice.
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I've owned both m&g and Airforce one. The m&g is very good, but the Airforce one is just as good. One good thing with the Airforce one it can be moved toad to toad when you trade. The m&g is vehicle model specific and not interchangeable so you have to buy a new one or trade, at a price, if you buy a new toad. Just telling you there are options just as good and effective.
Air Force One is good but a PITA to install compared to M&G. That said, some vehicles don't have room for the M&G in which case I would choose Air Force One.
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I live about 40 miles from M&G, took my rig and Wrangler Unlimited in on Weds. They put my rig in one bay and Jeep in another, I don't think I was there two hours. They installed the breakaway as well. Quick connect air hose and a breakaway "ripcord" attach under bumper... they put the pin for the breakaway on a pivoting arm so you can swing it under the bumper when not in use. Nice guys, was happy to get it factory installed.
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We have 40k on our M&G and it works great no problems. The only issue is if it will fit your toad.
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I too wonder about the brake cable.. I wonder if he means the break-away cable and if that cable is too tight (There should be slack) it will activate the brakes when it should not. That may be his problem No slack in the break-away or break-away instelled improperly

Or... Some folks who have never driven a stick shift keep their left foot on the brake pedal.... I learned on a stick.
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Air Force One is good but a PITA to install compared to M&G. That said, some vehicles don't have room for the M&G in which case I would choose Air Force One.
I disagree with your analysis. I have installed both systems and the M&G has to be very exact in the setup, or you will burn up your brakes, whereas there is no adjustment on the AF1 system. I have also transferred the same AF1 system from one Ford, to one Chevy and to two Dodges. You have to buy a new M&G system, or trade at a cost, for each new model vehicle.
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