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Old 07-12-2011, 11:20 AM   #29
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Just took our 2010 Cadillac SRX in for service (oil change). Dealer noticed I had tow rig set up on it. His only statement was we might want to change transmission fluid more often that the manual says to. This car is front wheel drive, I think it's transmission was used in the Saturn cars also. I do have to pull 3 fuses before I tow or the battery will be dead when I stop. This car does not have a key, just a fob, so I have to start the car, place tranny in neutral then press button to kill it. This leaves the dash on, the GPS on, and evidently a bunch of other stuff also. It does not show any "toad" mileage. I use a separate electrical feed straight from the battery to power the Brake Buddy.

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Old 07-12-2011, 11:29 AM   #30
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Not to throw a monkey wrench in the mix here, but...

The original contention was not whether a modern car would or would not register miles as it was being towed, but whether or not it was legal for it not to. I don't know the answer.

Years ago we had a Geo Tracker (We thought it was perfect toad. Light, and it would go anywhere we pointed it.) and, at the time, REMCO sold a solinoid that screwed into the side of the transmission and the cable screwed into that. I had it wired so when plugged into the wire harness of the motor home the solinoid would open, preventing mileage from accumulating on the odometer. They no longer sell these and some have contended because they are illegal, that it is, in fact, illegal for a towed car not to register miles as it is being towed. Again, I don't know what the law is, nor how we'd comply if it is required.

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Old 07-12-2011, 11:31 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by chapdog
Thought I had read a number of times here and elsewhere that mileage did not accumulate on the odometer on a toad while flat towing.

Played golf with a gentleman today who works at Kia here in Kamloops, BC. He said that it's illegal for a toad not to register all miles whether being towed or otherwise. I countered saying I thought I had heard that it is not. He responded suggesting that it might not be for older ones but for today's newer digitally logged cars he was quite confident he was right.

Is there a definitive yes or no on whether toads register miles on their odometer while being towed?
Or is it qualified by year, make, model, how you hook it up, whether key is on or....?

BTW, I'm leaning hard toward a Honda CRV EXL 4WD 2009-2011 for my toad.


Oops, Should have put this in the Toad section.
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:53 PM   #32
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Maybe in Canada where you met the gentleman. I couldn't find any laws regarding towed vehicle odometer readings.

I tow my 2004 Buick Rendezvous 4 down. I have a battery disconnect for the toad.
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Old 07-12-2011, 02:30 PM   #33
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If it was illegal for mileage not to register, the auto manufacturers wouldn't build them that way.
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:17 PM   #34
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Our old Tracker does pile up the miles as we go. I don't really care since it was towed by a PO and we got it with 96K on the clock. Up over 100K now and most of it in tow but we don't figure on selling it soon and if so don't think we will make a fortune anyway. It's in good shape and a great little toad.

I am so-so on how this should work. If your not driving it the motor isn't running but if you are towing it part of the drive train is spinning and causing wear on it. Should perspective buyers of your used vehicle be privy to this info? We were full aware that some or most of the miles on ours were in tow because it had the base plate and wiring already there. For us this was two good things. Less stuff to buy and maybe it had a lot less miles than the odometer showed.
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:23 PM   #35
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2010 Explorer and it don't run the mileage. How could it be illegal? Can you get a ticket? Guys an idiot.
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:28 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by Dave and Jaime View Post
Our 2009 CRV EX-L will not record miles when towed if you have the key in the "I" position but it WILL record miles if you have it in the "II" position. The owner's manual explains the proper procedure for towing a CRV. Can't speak for anything newer than 2009 but I think the 2010, at least, did not change this feature.

I wouldn't be surprised if some manufacturers are trying to do away with the zero miles while towing feature, though, since that would cause the new warranty to expire sooner and save them some money.
Beyond starting, running, and moving the shifter through the prescribed sequence, with your CRV do you have the battery dieing issues I've read about here and if so do you pull any fuses to prevent same?

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Old 07-12-2011, 03:48 PM   #37
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Illegal for the miles towed not to register.

Well.. If you believe as I do that a car should record all miles driven.. That might apply.
BUT if you also believe as I do that a car in tow, is a TRAILER, And dang few (Relative) Trailers have odometers (Believe it or not some do) then he's nuts.

If you dolly tow with the drive wheels on the dolly, NO MILLAGE
If you tow with an axle lock or drive shaft disconnect NO MILLAGE

If your odometer is electroinc and the ignition needs to be on for it to rack 'em up, NO MILLAGE.

The person who told you it's illegal.. NO MILLAGE,, ur, No BRAINage, UR, ask to see he law degree. Or better yet. ask to see the law itself.
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:44 PM   #38
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My 09 CRV does not register while under tow.
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In general, if the key is in Accessory, a vehicle with an electronic speedometer/odometer will not register mileage. It will if you turn the key to "On", though. That activates the engine electroncis, which does the recording.

No US state requires that miles be recorded under tow. But the reference was to a gent in British Columbia, which may have different laws.
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Many toads are 4x4 vehicles, when you have the transfer case in neutral the vehicle should not be recording any mileage.
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Towing a 2010 Honda CRV AWD 4 down with a Falcon 2 tow bar. NO mileage added while towing the Honda. Your dealer friend is wrong.
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In another time and place you hear the phrase "Show me the money" as it were.

I'd ask the "Expert" to: Show me the law.

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