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Old 02-24-2013, 06:59 PM   #15
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Here's my opinion (and everyone has one): towing 4-down is way less hassle than towing on a dolly. Lots of posts on this topic. It comes down to personal preference on how you use your tow car other than towing, etc.

It takes me about 5 minutes to set up my HHR to tow behind the motorhome flat-4.
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:33 PM   #16
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We just bought a Kar Kaddy SS since we have 2 cars we'll be towing. First time I hooked up the car it took me 5 minutes, not sure how people think it's a lot of work.

Never towed 4 down but my experience with the dolly is great
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:48 PM   #17
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I see from your profile that we are the same age. Based solely on this I would opt for towing flat, 4 down. We towed a dolly for 25 plus years and had a lot of fun with it. The dolly permitted us to tow different cars aa needed over the years based on the need of our growing family, then downsizing as they left for college.
Now, the knees and back just aren't what they used to be. Hooking up the tow bar is by far less strenuous than bending down to hook up the dolly chains and crank down the straps.
We've been towing our Saturn flat for 5 years now and it is much easier for me to handle.
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Yep! everybody has an opinion.
Guess you still have a decision to make!

I suggest not going 4 down and not getting the Wrangler. It's good to occasionally make decisions you later regret.
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:07 PM   #19
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Jeep Liberty vs. Dolly

Many good comments and opinions.

My only input is that $9800 for a 2002 Liberty sounds pretty steep.
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:27 PM   #20
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Towing ???

Been towing 4 down since 1990 4 different Jeeps and 4 different Motorhomes. Started with a 1951 Willis, then a 1992 Wrangler, then a 2003 two door Rubicon, now a 2009 four door Rubicon Unlimited. Still own the last 2 just have to decided which one I want to drive or where we are going. 4 down has always worked for me.
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I've towed the same Odyssey both on a dolly and four down with the same MH. Last time I towed four down the battery ran down twice (new battery installed just before we left). When we got back I found that the alignment had been knocked out and I needed new tires. Plus there were lots more paint chips. Back to towing on the KK-460 dolly!
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:51 PM   #22
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Can your venza be used with a tow dolly ?
If you are going to a park for a couple of weeks at a time , the dolly would be a good choice . Perhaps you can get a pull thru site at other times. Towing 4 down is more convienent , but in the case you have , it would be more expensive to set up.
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I've towed the same Odyssey both on a dolly and four down with the same MH. Last time I towed four down the battery ran down twice (new battery installed just before we left). When we got back I found that the alignment had been knocked out and I needed new tires. Plus there were lots more paint chips. Back to towing on the KK-460 dolly!
Interesting. Wonder what the cause was. I have over 50K miles 4 down with a Saturn and a Wrangler with none of those issues.
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To day is decision making day. The decision is whether to buy a car dolly for my 2010 Toyota Venza or buy a 2002 Jeep Liberty 4x4 with 58K miles on it for $9800 and then spend another $2400 on towing equipment. My wife and I have no experience with Toads as we just got our 2003 Safari Zanzabar in October and have had only one trip in it and of course that was toadless. What would you do? I need some folks with experience to tell us if we are going to regret going one way or the other. Many thanks for your wisdom.
Your New to RVing, go with a Dolley, this way you can tow just about anything and if you change vehicles no problem.

If you decide to go full time or want to switch to 4 down they are easy to sell.

Tow bars plates and wire harnesses are vehicle specific and when you change vehicle you have to buy more parts.

I went with a KarKaddy SS got a great deal from PPLMotorhomes, 5 minutes to load up and tied down after the first time which took 15 minutes because I was reading the instructions on the fender.

2600 Miles on the first trip and it was Perfect, no regrets and looking forward to the next trip.

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X2 Go with the dolly.
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The prime consideration should be what do you plan to use the toad for? I have had both, and for us towing 4 wheel down is much preferred over a tow dolly. I will not own another one. Fact, if I wanted a "quality ride" for my toad I would pony up the cash for drive shaft uncouplers, and transmission pumps before I would use a dolly. I had several bad experiences with ours. The cost is a one time thing, not year after year, so do it right, for your values the first time and don't look back.

We tow with a Nissan Frontier pickup, with a manual transmission. The wife has the nice family sedan we drive when at home, when I retire I wanted the utility and flexibility a pick up offers. It is perfect for us.
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I saw a guy pulling a 1/2 ton pickup on a dolly behind his MH. The truck was facing away from the motorhome and the magnetic tail lights mounted on the trucks hood were slipping around on the truck because of the bumpy road.

BTW if you have a jeep automatic full time four wheel drive you either have to tow it four down or on a trailer. I was told in no uncertain terms by my mechanic to not tow the jeep using a dolly. It wreaks havoc on the transfer case.
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Since you are already thinking about a different rig to use as a toad than your Venza, you can also opt for a less expensive toad or trade your Venza for something that is 4 wheel down toad friendly.

In our case, our "nice" vehicle is a 2011 Subaru outback limited with the CVT tranny. Towing 4 down isn't an option and would exceed our tow capacity anyway.

We started with a dolly and a ford focus wagon but moved to towing 4 down a 4WD 2003 Chevy Tracker. Certainly not as nice as the Subaru or your Venza, but 2,800 pound curb weight, pulls well, and can be had for around $5k made it a good option.

Roadmaster's falcon all terrain and the hidden baseplates are a great tow bar setup. There are several different braking options that you will see discussed on this site.
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