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Old 08-17-2016, 06:42 AM   #1
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New Hondas

Why would Honda stop selling 4 down towing for all the new Honda's.
Last time I was having oil changed on my 2012 Fit they told me Honda's changed the trannies on new Honda's and the new tranny doesn't allow towing.
I really like the Honda's and have a Honda Van and like my Fit for around town
driving and great MPG and small but the seats fold down and the hatch opens making it easy for adding things and great for towing small and light.
I am thinking when do for trade in I like the new Honda H something to replace
my Fit and so how about those lube pumps,I don't want to add a dolly for sure.
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Old 08-17-2016, 09:13 AM   #2
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I believe the new Honda HRV is towable but not absolutely certain. Yes Its a bummer that Honda went with the CV transmission. I suppose that those of us that baught Hondas for towing is such a small percentage of overall sales that it doe St make much difference.
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HRV comes with either a CVT automatic or a 6-speed manual. Can't tow a CVT tranny.
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For towing the fit what type of tow bar, brake etc do you use? We are looking at a fit for flat towing behind our Class C Sunseeker 2010. Thanks
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My wife won't have anything except a Honda! We just bought a 2013 CRV that we'll keep as long as possible. After that, who knows!
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The new transmission is much simpler and cheaper to build! Next question?
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Not sure about it being cheaper (maybe it is), but it is much more convenient. No shifting of gears to get the engine in the HP and Torque in range for power...just push the pedal and it goes...right now.

I realize people have brand name preference, in fact we were avid Toyota people and when we went looking for a new toad, we found none that could be towed without modification. So we were forced to look else where. Have not been a big three fan for many, many years but it seemed that they were the only ones making vehicles that could be towed 4-down. After much research, test driving, and negotiating, we settled on the GMC Terrain....really not to my liking, but it had everything we wanted in a toad. I was very sceptic of it's reliability, but I gotta tell ya, after 90,000 miles (about 20,000 being towed), we have had ZERO problems....not one. It is still just as quiet and responsive as it was new. Put the key in ACC, flip the switch for the fuse, put it in neutral and off we go.

So, swallow your Honda pride and check out some the of big three towable...you won't be sorry.

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HRV comes with either a CVT automatic or a 6-speed manual. Can't tow a CVT tranny.

Not sure what Honda did to their design to make it non towable? All Ford Escape hybrids with CVT are towable....however they only made the escape hybrid up to 2012
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Well one isduwe is that the new Hindas also have a new key system which may not let you put it on acc to unlock the wheel
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So, swallow your Honda pride and check out some the of big three towable...you won't be sorry.

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I worked 27 years for Toyota and just bought a new Equinox. Like you no automatic Toyota was 4 down towable. I must say the Equinox fit and finish is quite good and they have been used as a toad vehicle for years.
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Well one isduwe is that the new Hindas also have a new key system which may not let you put it on acc to unlock the wheel
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The only Hondas that are towable have standard transmissions according to the 2016 FMCA towing guide. I'm a Honda guy having bought my first one in 1979.

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Why would Honda stop selling 4 down towing for all the new Honda's.
Plenty of reasons why it is better for Honda: lower cost, higher efficiency, smoother operation, and a simpler design that should have a lower warranty cost in the long run.

The rest of the reason is that sales to motorhome owners are an insignificant factor in Honda's revenue and the CVT's advantages to Honda far outweigh the tiny additional sales.

Honda is scarcely the only auto maker to make this tradeoff. Toyota, Nissan and Mazda have never bothered with the towable car market niche, and GM and Chrysler/FCA consistently make tradeoffs against towable vehicles.
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Plenty of reasons why it is better for Honda: lower cost, higher efficiency, smoother operation, and a simpler design that should have a lower warranty cost in the long run.

The rest of the reason is that sales to motorhome owners are an insignificant factor in Honda's revenue and the CVT's advantages to Honda far outweigh the tiny additional sales.

Honda is scarcely the only auto maker to make this tradeoff. Toyota, Nissan and Mazda have never bothered with the towable car market niche, and GM and Chrysler/FCA consistently make tradeoffs against towable vehicles.
True, sales of "towable" vehicles would be/are a very small % of total manuf. output. And, doing away with a "towable" vehicle lets the manuf. off the hook as far as warranty work when an owner dosen't tow the veh properly, and damages it.
Up till 2015, almost any Subaru with a manual tranny was towable 4 down, and that info was in owners manual.
The 2016 Subaru's with manual tranny, even though their is no difference between the 2016 and 2015, 14, 13, tranny's are not, per the owners manual, towable 4 down anymore.
Pays to keep your current toad in top shape.
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