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Old 03-08-2014, 09:07 PM   #1
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We have just purchased a 2015 Discovery 40G. We also had to trade down to a smaller 2014 Ford Explorer as our Expedition can't be flat towed. We purchased the Explorer new and it is currently at the dealership having a Blue Ox towing system installed. The dealership tells me in no uncertain terms that we will not need a braking system, but everything I am reading tells me different....... I am hopeful that you all can help me understand the importance or lack thereof of a braking system. Looking forward to your responses.


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Old 03-08-2014, 09:56 PM   #2
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This is a topic has been well documented. The details do not matter.

If you wish to be safer by enough of an improved stopping distance to not kill the fool that pulled out in front of you, causing you to make a panic stop, just bite the bullet and get the aux braking system. K?

I did not kill 2 so far.

Search on "aux brake" or "brake buddy" (et al). The majority by far says YES!
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Thank You!

I appreciate your advice!
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Yes you need a braking system. There is no state out there that allows you to tow a 1,500 lb+ vehicle or trailer without a break-away braking system, and to have that, you are pretty much all the way there for a complete braking system.
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One: It's a safety issue

Two: As already mentioned, it's the law in almost every jurisdiction

Three: Not having one will add thousands to any settlement received by the person you rear end.
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Welcome to iRV2!

Yup - agree on the auxiliary braking system. Should you ever do any mountain driving, it will prove itself worth the investment. Simply a safety issue, and required by most states everywhere. Ask your salesman what he/she drives and tows, and whether he/she has an auxiliary braking system installed.

You'll find lots of friendly folks here with lots of great advice based on practical experience...I'll consider their advice any day over a sales rep.
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To me it's a "Cover My Butt insurance" policy. No different than the dash cam.

If something should happen, I want everything on my end to be right and tight.

We tow threw major cities all the time and that's the only place I worry about things. Out here in the west, not so much.
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If you have a problem, and do not have an aux. brake system then your insurance company has grounds to deny claim since it IS REQUIRED in most states and provinces.

I suppose strictly from a can your MH stop your toad standpoint, it may be able to, but how quickly? What are road conditions like, grades, etc.? Then what happens if it breaks away? The toad goes merrily on it's way passing you until it strikes something to stop it.

You just spent how many thousands of dollars on a coach and toad and tow bar. What's another thousand for a good breaking system?
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Get the additional brake system.
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If you have a problem, and do not have an aux. brake system then your insurance company has grounds to deny claim since it IS REQUIRED in most states and provinces.
I see this claimed often, but is simply is not true in the majority of cases.

1st party coverage (what you pay for) rarely has an exclusion for illegal activity, in at least some states that is legislated. If the insurance company could deny coverage because you broke the law you'd never be covered after running a stop sign, while speeding, or driving under the influence. What CAN happen, you may find it impossible or extremely expensive to buy another policy after having done any of these. Commercial policies can and may be different.
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Oh yeah, get it!!! There are different types, so you'll find one that you'll be satisfied with.
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That would be my last experience with that dealership. Have someone else double check the mounting plate install.....just sayin'.
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The other reason for a toad brake is to keep the toad behind you while you are stopping. Especially in wet conditions.
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Another reason is it should help keep your toad's front end better aligned. If you are stopping and the toad isn't braking with you that puts stress on the front end.

Regardless...it is just plain SMART to install a brake system on your toad even if only because of the break away.

BTW...I once had a tow arm pin get "lost". Don't know how but...

I could tell that as I was GENTLY braking my coach to get it under control that the brakes on my toad activated and help stop it from bumping the end of my coach or at least slowed it down enough to prevent damage. That sold me on my decision all by itself. I have the SMI Air Force One system.
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