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Old 06-20-2016, 12:08 AM   #1
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Patriot braking system trouble.

Hello. After looking for 2 months for a toad we settled and bought a 2008 Jeep GC seems perfect for us. Now I have installed a baseplate bought a blue ox tow bar and a patriot brake system used. I have the system working in the driveway however after only operating it only a few times the system has walked around and almost turned on it's side. The Jeep's seat does sit very high and the seat sticker has to be extended up all the way and still does not center on the seat. Anyone else have these issues? Thanks. Jeff

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Old 06-20-2016, 04:32 AM   #2
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Hi Jeff, had similar issues with my first toad, 2003 Saturn LW300. I bought the arm extender and the seat face plate from blue Ox per their recommendation.

I never could get it to work as advertised. Even the local blue Ox dealer couldn't help. We were always having to stop readjust and reset it. The one time I didn't it was a $1600 lesson after the $400 tow bill.

I know several people on this forum have not had issues, but I sold the car and gave them the Patriot. I purchased the SMI Stay N Play and no longer aggravated with aux braking device.

Good luck and I hope you can figure out how to make it work.


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Old 06-20-2016, 07:32 AM   #3
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I had old Blue Ox Apollo brake system I used in a Wrangler and had the same problem. The seat bar didn't go high enough to center on the seat. Got around the problem by putting a piece of 2x12 lumber under the unit. That lifted it enough to center on the seat and it seemed to stay in place very well.
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:21 PM   #4
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The 2" X 12" is the way to go. Now go one step further and drill the board with a spade drill the dia. of the brake unit feet following the pattern and spacing of the feet. Go about 1/2" deep and the brake unit will take root there and won't move until you move it.
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Old 06-20-2016, 10:28 PM   #5
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Thanks for the advice and I think I will go with the 2x12. Now I have another issue! I took the Jeep for a spin to check out the functioning. Low and behold the brake system does not brake at all.no matter how hard I hit the brakes on the MH. No braking on the patriot! I had my sponsor in the passenger seat to verify no braking. And when I use the manual lever on the remote I get a low car battery error! Ticked I was. Called blue ox and was told to send it to them and for $110 plus shipping they will update the software and replace the battery if necessary. So it's on its way to blue ox just hope it gets back intime for our first real trip. Thanks for all the advice. Jeff
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WRT to getting the Patriot to fit in our Jeep Liberty we had the same issue. Resolved it by cutting a small piece of plywood, then covering it with fabric (so as not to scratch the leather seats). I wedge this between the Patriot and seat. Works well for us.

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