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Old 01-03-2018, 08:15 PM   #1
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Power for patriot auxiliary brake controller.

I flat tow a 2016 Ford Edge and use a Patriot auxiliary brake. I installed a battery maintainer wire that runs off a hot wire in my 7 blade connection. However when I plug in the power wire for the braking system to the power point on the Edge it only stays powered for a short while. Maybe 15-20 minutes. Then the digital readout in the RV tells me to check the power. Short of installing another power socket (cigarette lighter socket) is there a solution. I see there are many of you that tow Ford Edge and I hope someone has a solution.
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:53 AM   #2
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Hi ! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined the gang!

Can't help with the problem but wanted to say hello! Keep her between the ditches!

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!


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Old 01-04-2018, 10:16 AM   #3
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Are you sure that the charge line is working correctly? I'd test each link to ensure I was seeing 12V from the coach. Start at the coach hitch connector, then the toad end of the umbilical, then the fuse holder in the toad, then the battery connection at the toad. The coach ignition may have to be on to see the +12V at these locations.

Here is a link to a Google search of iRV2 posts with the terms "Ford," "Edge" and "charge line" in them.
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I checked the charge line out. No problems there. The retained 12 power lasts 45-90 minutes. Still trying to figure it out. All three power outlets are the same. Probably I will run an always hot wire to an auxiliary outlet to solve this. Thanks.
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Think most of us simply add an outlet at a convenient spot wired directly to the battery. Be sure to use a fuse for protection. Mounted mine far left side under dash so easy to reach when I plug in the brake system.
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Think most of us simply add an outlet at a convenient spot wired directly to the battery. Be sure to use a fuse for protection. Mounted mine far left side under dash so easy to reach when I plug in the brake system.


Thank you!
I did just that with great results.
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Having read all the nightmare stories about charge wires that don't charge, dead toad batteries after the tow, yada, yada, I decided to bypass the RV/Toad power altogether.

I'm using the 12v outlet on my portable battery jump/power source to provide power to my RVi3. Works superbly so far - and no dead toad batteries. Added benefit, obviously, is a way to jump a dead battery, should the need arise.
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Having read all the nightmare stories about charge wires that don't charge, dead toad batteries after the tow, yada, yada, I decided to bypass the RV/Toad power altogether.

I'm using the 12v outlet on my portable battery jump/power source to provide power to my RVi3. Works superbly so far - and no dead toad batteries. Added benefit, obviously, is a way to jump a dead battery, should the need arise.
Good idea with the jump-power source, I did what Dennis did, added a 12 v outlet under the dash and ran it to the battery. ( no charge line from the coach). so far so good, no dead toad battery as of yet......so in theory on my toad I have a couple small lights on the patriot and an occasional brake light on the car that comes on. I just don't see that running down my battery.
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so far so good, no dead toad battery as of yet......so in theory on my toad I have a couple small lights on the patriot and an occasional brake light on the car that comes on. I just don't see that running down my battery.
You'll probably be OK. I think the "dead battery" issues happened to people with toads that required the key in the "accessory" position to keep the steering unlocked.
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With the battery ground disconnected, a fused independent power point or a jump box is the only way to power your brake system.

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I have left my Patriot II plug into hot outlet in my Jeep up to 3 days without running down the battery. I don't think it will be problem unless you have to leave your key in ACC, my Jeep you remove the key to tow.
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You've solved the problem if you already ran a direct hot wire from the battery or use a portable jump start box.
The problem is not in the charge line. It's the car. The manufacturers think the public is too stupid and will deplete the battery so all the newer car power outlets power off a few minutes after you turn off the key.
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Good call by "JohnH12".....The systems shutting down after the key is turned off is often a problem, especially when you have something on a charger,
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You've solved the problem if you already ran a direct hot wire from the battery or use a portable jump start box.
The problem is not in the charge line. It's the car. The manufacturers think the public is too stupid and will deplete the battery so all the newer car power outlets power off a few minutes after you turn off the key.
Not the case in our Jeep JK, the one in the center console says hot all the time. Also the one in our Jeep GC and CRV has hot plug inside the center console.
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