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Old 08-22-2006, 09:06 PM   #1
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I purchased a Roadmaster Sterling tow bar. I also purchased a 4" drop hitch to ensure that the tow bar is level during the tow. I just had the SMI brake installed at a shop and when I left the shop, the problems started.

First, after driving a couple of hundred feet, the break-away cable pulled out and applied the brakes on the toad. The status sensor in the coach was buzzing and blinking away. At least that part worked. I discovered that the break away cable was installed with the tow bar in the collapsed position and there seemed to be enough cable. When I pulled away, the tow bar extended to the normal towing position and the break away cable was too short. I immediately stopped and adjusted the cable and everything seemed fine. When I got home, I discovered that the power cable pulled out from the coach somewhere on route. I therefore had NO toad lights or brakes. The drop hitch adds around 14" to the tow bar overall length which caused the cable problems. The safety cables were also stretched to their limits.

Now, do I use the drop hitch and get longer cables to account for the cable length problem or do I tow without the drop hitch and tow with the tow bar over 5" to low on the car side.
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I purchased a Roadmaster Sterling tow bar. I also purchased a 4" drop hitch to ensure that the tow bar is level during the tow. I just had the SMI brake installed at a shop and when I left the shop, the problems started.

First, after driving a couple of hundred feet, the break-away cable pulled out and applied the brakes on the toad. The status sensor in the coach was buzzing and blinking away. At least that part worked. I discovered that the break away cable was installed with the tow bar in the collapsed position and there seemed to be enough cable. When I pulled away, the tow bar extended to the normal towing position and the break away cable was too short. I immediately stopped and adjusted the cable and everything seemed fine. When I got home, I discovered that the power cable pulled out from the coach somewhere on route. I therefore had NO toad lights or brakes. The drop hitch adds around 14" to the tow bar overall length which caused the cable problems. The safety cables were also stretched to their limits.

Now, do I use the drop hitch and get longer cables to account for the cable length problem or do I tow without the drop hitch and tow with the tow bar over 5" to low on the car side.
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:14 PM   #3
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I'm surprised that you are adding near 14" with a drop hitch. I have a 6" drop on mine along with an adapter for bicycles and only have right at 12" additional length.

Maybe you could check and see if your drop hitch is also intended to extend - if so, you should be able to get one that just gives the drop.

I'd be reluctant to have any more rise than absoulutely necessary and prefer to have my towbar set up so that it is level.

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HERE is a link to an article by Mark Penlerick, an Engineering Team Leader at Blue Ox.

FOUR INCHES is the maximum he recommends dropping....

Blue Ox's recommendation is that the receiver hitch of the motorhome should never be more than 4 inches higher than the baseplate attachment points. Four inches or less keeps the tow bar level with the ground or slightly angled up towards the coach from the car. The tow bar should never be angled "up" towards the car from the coach. If an extension is added for say a bike rack it is even more imperative the tow bar not be at a severe angle. Not only does it increase the leverage, but each connection adds more slack in the whole setup. It's all geometry and physics. Please, no groans, I know you enjoyed those classes! The farther back you move the pivot point of the tow bar from the center of gravity of the coach, the more vertical movement you get and the more leverage is applied to the receiver hitch, tow bar and the baseplate. See, that wasn't so bad!
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Old 08-23-2006, 04:39 AM   #5
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Call Roadmaster. They may supply you with longer cables. Roadmaster is very responsive to customer problems.
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I had a length problem with mine and just linked in an additional 10 inch safey chain (actually a cable) to the standard one, using a universal link to make the connection. The power cables were plenty long, cause I cut them to length myself...

I would not be too concerned about having the car 4 inches lower than the receiver, though. That's (barely) within tolerances for the hitch mechanism. [If it were 4 inches high, that would be a different story.]
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Why didn't you lock the bar in before moving the toad and check all the cables/wires ?
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