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Old 04-17-2015, 10:38 PM   #15
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Do you have a photo of your Eos bumper with the mounting plate installed?

I have an 08 Eos, 2.0L with automatic. I'd been curious about towing 4 down on the auto. The VW auto is more like a manual as I understand, with electrically operated clutch ?
A VW automatic transmission will fail if towed. No lubrication without the engine running.
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Old 04-17-2015, 11:56 PM   #16
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When I bought a 15 Jetta TDI SEL six speed manual I checked with the service manager. He stated it could be flat towed with the manual. Automatics require a dolly. Also read a VW statement to that effect somewhere, possibly this forum.
The Jetta is push button start, no keys, just proximity sensor. Keeping the electronic steering lock disengaged is something I need to look into. Anyone have one?
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Just wondering a couple of things here. In the above statement, you said that the Service Manager stated "It could be flat towed with a manual". Now, to the best of my knowledge, VOA does not authorize ANY of its fleet to be flat towed, PERIOD! No where in any of the Dinghy Towing Guides that I have on file, from '02 to '13, is there any listing for any VW vehicles to be flat towed.

I double checked to make sure. Now, I suppose that, the Dinghy Towing Guide of '15 may be a new version and, may in fact, list some VWs to be flat towed, I've not checked that year of Towing guide. I don't follow all the latest info on what's towable and what's not but, to date, I've not seen any printed matter that states ANY VW model, is allowed to be flat towed.

Now, there are folks that tow late model VW vehicles (all be them "Stick" versions) without any issues. But, my question is about that statement that that, that particular service advisor is basically stating that it's perfectly OK to flat tow a VW model car when, in fact, they are not listed anywhere as an authorized flat tow vehicle.
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I bet if Rick_NH asked for the statement about O.K. to tow in writing, it'd be a different story. Service Managers hang out with salesmen, and we know they'll tell you anything to make a sale.
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FROM VW TDI FORUM

Allow me to begin by stating we do not recommend nor advise you to tow your vehicle.

If you still wish to tow the vehicle, below is the best way that our vehicles can be towed; please use this information wisely.

Any 4 wheel drive vehicle can only be towed on a trailer with all four wheels on the trailer. As for our front wheel drive vehicles, Volkswagen recommends that you use at least a two-wheel dolly. Therefore, your Golf TDI should be transported on a flatbed only.
The two wheel dolly would prevent the hydraulic system from being active in an automatic transmission, causing overheating and internal damage. Additionally, though this would not happen with a standard transmission, miles would still accumulate on the odometer and the steering wheel would have to be unlocked so the car is able to follow the towing vehicle around turns.

Please know the drive wheels need to be up on the dolly for this to work, and the safety instructions from the dolly manufacturer need to be strictly followed.

If you have any other questions for us, please feel free to reply to my email, give us another call at 800-822-8987, or chat live with us on www.vw.com."
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I bet if Rick_NH asked for the statement about O.K. to tow in writing, it'd be a different story. Service Managers hang out with salesmen, and we know they'll tell you anything to make a sale.

Have a service appointment Monday, will let you know.
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I bet if Rick_NH asked for the statement about O.K. to tow in writing, it'd be a different story. Service Managers hang out with salesmen, and we know they'll tell you anything to make a sale.
Yep,
That's what I was getting at. Since I've not read any printed matter acknowledging ANY late model VW to be flat towed, I'm really surprised that ANY service manager at ANY VW dealership would advise any customer that his/her late model VW can be FLAT TOWED, especially if it was under warranty. After warranty, who cares, it's your car.

As stated earlier, three are many, many folks out there in RV land that tow late model VWs ON ALL FOUR. They are ALL STANDARD trannies though. And that's fine. Someday, we quite possibly will join those ones that do. Love those TDI engines.
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If you have any other questions for us, please feel free to reply to my email, give us another call at 800-822-8987, or chat live with us on www.vw.com."
Off topic question.

Hello Rick,
Could you tell me which forum you got that from. I searched for VW TDI FORUM, but there is so many of them don't know which one is best. We have a 13 Passat TDI SEL automatic that I plan to tow on a Kar Kaddy SS.

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Kpjp,

Do you have a photo of your Eos bumper with the mounting plate installed?

I have an 08 Eos, 2.0L with automatic. I'd been curious about towing 4 down on the auto. The VW auto is more like a manual as I understand, with electrically operated clutch ?

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ID:	91886Here is a photo of the front of my 07 EOS. The baseplate is a Blue Ox brand. The manual transmission we have is flat towable as I have been doing it for a long time and over 8000miles. As I previously stated, when I installed the baseplate, I disconnected the air bag sensor and had to have the air bag fault indicator reset. My VW dealership in Lakeland Florida was only too happy to reset it for free. They are well aware that we flat tow. Did they give us their blessing? No. However, they were very familiar with this model being flat towed by many other customers.

I have never seen an automatic VW being flat towed.

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Attachment 91886Here is a photo of the front of my 07 EOS. The baseplate is a Blue Ox brand. The manual transmission we have is flat towable as I have been doing it for a long time and over 8000miles. As I previously stated, when I installed the baseplate, I disconnected the air bag sensor and had to have the air bag fault indicator reset. My VW dealership in Lakeland Florida was only too happy to reset it for free. They are well aware that we flat tow. Did they give us their blessing? No. However, they were very familiar with this model being flat towed by many other customers.

I have never seen an automatic VW being flat towed.

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Was it difficult to remove the bumper to install the plate?
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The bumper was no difficult to remove, it just took time. Whole job took about about 5 hours including the wiring.

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