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Old 12-10-2013, 10:21 AM   #1
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Quick Subaru Outback questions

2010 subaru outback, 2.5.i, manual tranny.

Battery! I understand that there is a notch with the key that is the acc mode, but one notch back counter clockwise to turn off radio and what not.

But just curious, any other advice on towing this vehicle? Battery charger? (toad charger)

anything else to be "aware" of
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:52 AM   #2
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Hello, we tow a 09 Forester with a manual transmission so this might help. I installed the baseplate as well as all the wiring.

The key is placed in the accessory position, this keep the steering wheel from locking but does turn on the radio and clock. You will have to make sure to keep them off so your battery does not drain when being towed.

For us it needs to be in the accessory position since our supplemental braking device receives its power from the accessory jack located in the console.

When I did the wiring I did bring a 12 volt lead back to the car but as of today I have not hooked it up. One day I might get a Toad Charge.

So far the battery drain has not been a issue and we have towed over 5K miles this year.

Have you decided on lighting? We went with diodes, with this the hookup of the vehicle is very easy.

Here are some pictures for you to look at and please let me know if you have any more questions.

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Thanks for the tips and photos really appreciate it. Did you install the plate yourself?
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We tow a 2001 Forester manual. Use the ACC position and make sure the radio is off. WE have the diodes in the light system and use the Air Force One brake system so there is no electrical drain on the toad battery. Works really great. FWIW, if you intend to do the diode installation, I searched and found a Subaru forum that had sub forums for each model of car. I then followed some of the leads and found a list of the wiring color codes and double checked it and it was right on. Sure made life easier. My diodes are under the right side rear seat.
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Yes I did the entire install myself. The instructions that came with the blue ox baseplate were well written. If you have the proper tools and are mechanically inclined I'm sure you could do this installation.

Since our motorhome shares the brake and turn signals. The wiring is a little tricky since you have to wire a converter to split the signals and the brake lights since the Subaru has separate turn and brake lights.

Message me if you have any questions and we can chat on the phone if you like.
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Need a quick education on these diodes. My rv dealer said she would install the blue IX for free and I'm inclined to let em. I'm sure I could do it myself, but I'm really busy
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I was lucky. Both my MH and the Forester had separate brake and turn signals. Made life easier. BTW; Blue Ox used to have some good tech sheets on how to wire up the lights both with and not using diodes (extra light bulb). You might look at their website. I haven't been there in awhile but hopefully they are still there.
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Here is the link to the roadmaster wiring kit, this is what I used.

I also wanted to place my diodes on one location but the instructions recommend that they are as close to the toads vehicles lights as possible.

The diodes allow you to use the same brake and turn signals that are on your toad, when the diode is installed it allows current from your motorhome to pass and illuminate the bulb but not the toads electrical system. Think of it as a one way check valve.
The link will show you some wiring diagrams to help you better understand.
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So I towed for like 45 minutes the other day, and when I got to my destination, the car was slow to crank, but it cranked.

The key was in the position just between LOCK and ACC, and everything inside was off / wouldn't turn on.

I don't know if they are related as the Subie is new to me, and I don't know the condition of the battery, although it "looks" very clean and fresh.

I wonder if the diadoes installed are running all of the turn signal lights and brake lights from the toad battery, and could that possibly wear the battery down on such a short drive? I didn't do the install myself, soooooo...

Also, I had the M&G airbrakes installed, so no 12 volt needed in the car.
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Here is the link to the roadmaster wiring kit, this is what I used.

I also wanted to place my diodes on one location but the instructions recommend that they are as close to the toads vehicles lights as possible.

The diodes allow you to use the same brake and turn signals that are on your toad, when the diode is installed it allows current from your motorhome to pass and illuminate the bulb but not the toads electrical system. Think of it as a one way check valve.
The link will show you some wiring diagrams to help you better understand.
see so that's the question, did the guy who install it, properly wire the diodes...
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I can't imagine that after 45 min the battery is low.

Are the diodes installed correctly? Thats very easy to test.

Do the lights work normally on the toad?

When electrically connected to the motorhome turn on the parking lights (on the motorhome), do just the rear taillights illuminate on the toad?

Do the same for the turn signals.

If you answered yes to the questions above it sounds like your wiring is fine.

Get the battery load tested.
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Ok here's what I've noticed.

CONNECTED :
Turn signals CHECK
Brake Light When MH Pedal Pressed CHECK
Turn on MH headlights NO LIGHTS ON TOAD

Towed yesterday for 6 hours, and the Subie cranked right up with zero problems.

It could totally be that the battery is just weak period, with no regard to the MH.

But I would like to think that when I turn on my MH headlights, the toal taillights would also come on yes?

Could it possibly be a fuse on the MH out? When the wiring was first done, we found zero signal to the hitch, and discovered a blown fuse that when changed, the turn and brake signals came right on. Wondering if there could be a separate one for the headlight / tail light.
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If you turn on the head / tail lights on in the motorhome the tail lights on the toad should illuminate.

I would not think that there is a separate fuse for the power that runs to the toad but who knows.

Again as far as the cater is concerned, get the battery load tested if you do not know how old the battery is.

Also, make sure the radio and headlight switch is turned off on the subaru when towing.

Let us know how you do.
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will check all and report.
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