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09-16-2007, 06:54 AM
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Ok..I know this section is sponsored by SMI...(sorry!) but I am trying to get a desirable 4 down automatic toad that is inexpensive and reliable and comfortable...I was hoping to get a larger Saturn like a Vue or Ion..bigger than my SL1 that I love but is too low/small for me..I was hoping for a M&G brake system,but find that it will only fit a Saturn L series or Aura! And on Malibus, the fit is IFFY...so some folks suggest the Roadmaster Brakemaster 9100 series which will fit any car vs being stuck with a car I like that M&G wont fit! I presume they both work the same way as for braking operation, but how quick/easy is the actual piston hookup in the toad with the Roadmaster??
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2006 Mountain Aire 43 and 05 Honda Pilot
Air Force One
3 sugar gliders, long hair daschund and short hair wife for security
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09-16-2007, 06:54 AM
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Location: Mobile, Alabama
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Ok..I know this section is sponsored by SMI...(sorry!) but I am trying to get a desirable 4 down automatic toad that is inexpensive and reliable and comfortable...I was hoping to get a larger Saturn like a Vue or Ion..bigger than my SL1 that I love but is too low/small for me..I was hoping for a M&G brake system,but find that it will only fit a Saturn L series or Aura! And on Malibus, the fit is IFFY...so some folks suggest the Roadmaster Brakemaster 9100 series which will fit any car vs being stuck with a car I like that M&G wont fit! I presume they both work the same way as for braking operation, but how quick/easy is the actual piston hookup in the toad with the Roadmaster??
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2006 Mountain Aire 43 and 05 Honda Pilot
Air Force One
3 sugar gliders, long hair daschund and short hair wife for security
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09-16-2007, 07:37 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Florida Cooters Club
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Silver Springs, FL. USA
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Once you have the mounting plate & air line quick connect installed on the floor by the driver seat, the Brakemaster piston is a breeze to connect - takes perhaps a minute to clip it on and connect the air line. My wife does it on ours, while I hook up the tow bar and make the connections to the motorhome.
I'm not sure what you mean by "both work the same way" but the Brakemaster gets the job done differently than the M&G. Brakemaster pushes the toad's brake pedal without benefit of power assist, whereas the M&G couples to the toad's brake master cylinder and actually drives the toad's brake system from there. The net result is the same, though, the toad brakes are applied at the same level as as the motorhome brakes, since both systems are driven by the pressure of the the motorhome air brake system.
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2004 American Tradition; 2007 GMC Acadia
Homebase in the Ocala Nat'l Forest near Ocala, FL
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09-27-2007, 08:12 PM
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I recently traded my much loved Dutch Star on a Class B+ Phoenix Cruiser. My toad is an 02 CRV equipped with the Roadmaster Brakemaster. Does anyone know if this system can be adapted to gas coach without air brakes?
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2007 2350 Phoenix Cruiser
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09-28-2007, 12:59 AM
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Gulf Streamers Club Country Coach Owners Club Appalachian Campers
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Roadmaster does make a model of Brakemaster for gas coaches. I would contact them and let them know of the senario and they may provide you with only the compressor and needed hardware to convert your system to work on your new coach. Good luck and let us know the out come.
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Mike, Certified Master RV Technician
Amy, RV Merchandiser; Roxie & Mei Ling, four legs each
2000 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser w/ Banks & 2 toads
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09-28-2007, 04:12 AM
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Texas Boomers Club Freightliner Owners Club
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I agree with the ease of hookup of the Brakemaster piston. At the suggestion of RV Wizard, I looked into that system in 2004 and have been using it with no problems since. I did the toad portion of the installation myself and it only took me about 2 and a half hours. I had to order a part later from Roadmaster and found that they were very responsive.
Charlie
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2005 Saturn Vue toad
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09-30-2007, 02:36 PM
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Location: Mobile, Alabama
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I just installed my toad portion...used the optional mounting bracket and can see how it saved ALOT of work trying to mount the plate to the floor...will attack the coach this week....that should be the easier part...then the monitor light...I was told they include 50 feet of wire ...that might be close for my 43 foot coach but I can splice if necessary
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Air Force One
3 sugar gliders, long hair daschund and short hair wife for security
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10-04-2007, 05:18 PM
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Location: Mobile, Alabama
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Well...did the coach part of the install yesterday...went well and was easy...but REAL creepy lying under a 19 TON vehicle with about 12 inches of ground clearance...I was sweating bullets, but not from the heat!! Tested it and it actually works.....Monitor light and Im done...that part will be easy as the toad is already wired to the cold side of the brake switch..just need to run the wire from the dash to the rear and will likely need to splice the wire...only had 15 inches of air line left over...
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2006 Mountain Aire 43 and 05 Honda Pilot
Air Force One
3 sugar gliders, long hair daschund and short hair wife for security
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10-06-2007, 10:20 AM
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Update....took a test drive with the Brakemaster and can definitely tell it takes the stopping stress off the coach, unlike the Brake in the box I have been using ...I really like the progressive braking instead of all on or all off...It actually feels like stopping the coach alone with no toad...Also, it takes less than a minute to install the piston in the toad....Im happy...
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2006 Mountain Aire 43 and 05 Honda Pilot
Air Force One
3 sugar gliders, long hair daschund and short hair wife for security
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10-07-2007, 03:47 AM
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Gulf Streamers Club Country Coach Owners Club Appalachian Campers
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Larry, glad to hear that you have the Brakemater installed and it if functioning well for you. Enjoy!
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Mike, Certified Master RV Technician
Amy, RV Merchandiser; Roxie & Mei Ling, four legs each
2000 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser w/ Banks & 2 toads
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02-22-2008, 05:53 PM
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Freightliner Owners Club Fleetwood Owners Club
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Location: Sammamish, WA
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Just finished installing the Roadmaster 9060 and it was a breeze. I would do this again if and when I change coaches. The toad sets up really fast.
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'07 Fleetwood Bounder Diesel 38N
Brazel's added: MP-8, Aero Muffler, Koni FSD Shocks, Bell Crank and Comfort Ride Control Valves. '08 Ford Escape Hybrid, Brakemaster 9100
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