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04-08-2015, 06:49 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Quitman MS
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I think you made a wise decision, I know that the Brakemaster takes an extra minute to install but I like the set up and the ease of transfer to other toads, I use it on both of my toads and have used it for yrs. I have always got fast friendly service from Roadmaster and it's good to here they came through again, but I do think they should remove that trouble prone system from the market.
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04-08-2015, 07:01 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 37,725
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We've used the BrakeMaster on two MH's and two toweds and find it to work very well.
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04-09-2015, 08:44 AM
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#31
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Registered User
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lar-Dawg
Update: Roadmaster told Camping World to seal the diode connectors with silicon. I also call tech support at Roadmaster and was very disappointed with their reaction, saying this was an installation problem and not a problem with their design. I told them that any installation that is this easy to mess up implies it is a bad design. The diode connections need to be waterproof!
On my next RV tip, the Invisibrake stopped working altogether. I stopped at another out of town Camping World and they replaced the unit. They also told me that, for safety, they tell all of their customers to pull the 20A fuse when not being towed.
Since then the product has worked OK, but only if we pump the brakes after first connecting it. Otherwise, I don't get a light in the RV saying the brakes are working.
There are problems with this product and Roadmaster won't admit it!
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I don't buy the installation story as my unit was installed by Roadmaster at the Quartzsite RV Show.
We did not have access to any silicon when we discovered this so we dried the diodes off as best we could and swathed them in plastic and sealed the whole thing with duct tape.
It's been disabled ever since...with the fuse out....but now after reading all this I'm scared to use it!
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04-10-2015, 01:31 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Having no On/Off switch is a sales point of the InvisiBrake. Which means it is on 24/365?
Another feature is that it charges the toad battery from the 12VDC pin on the tow connector, so it has access to this information. Why are the brakes being activated with the ignition on and no tow vehicle attached? This sounds like a serious design flaw.
People say they pull the 20Amp fuse when not towing because they don't trust the device. But then they trust it to not randomly activate and possibly destroy the toad's tires and brakes as it gets dragged down the road.
Mysterious logic.
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04-10-2015, 06:32 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasEd
Under the hood I realized they had installed an extra 20A fuse which I removed disabling the unit.
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Such a simple emergency solution.... You would be amazed at how many can not figure that out without someone holding their hand.
Congrats on finding it
yes..the final solution is also easy.. Roadmaster is not the only company guilty of that however..Check the rear wheel wells on your RV odds are you will find wires there...; Right where a flat can tear them to kingdom come.
I once got pulled over for no tail lights.. Found out there was a muliti pin connector inside the fender separated from the wheel by a cracked piece of plastic..Salt and water had done their job.. I jumpered around it and got the lights working again.
I am constantly amazed as the STUPIDITY off folks who often get paid many times what I got paid when I was telling cops where to go..... But you have seen an example of that up close.. Same as I have.
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05-14-2015, 06:14 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Invisibrake Problems
We had an Invisibrake with our previous tow vehicle. We had zero problems with that Invisibrake. When we purchased a new tow vehicle, we had an Invisibrake installed in it on March 7, 2015. We have had NOTHING but problems with it. We have attempted to tow 5 times since the Invisibrake was installed. The brakes on the tow vehicle locked up 3 of those 5 times. The first time was on an interstate after traveling 123 miles. The other 2 times, we did not even get away from the hook-up site. Our service tech at Camping World telephoned Roadmaster customer service today to inquire about returning the unit because we do not trust it, with a 60% failure rate. The customer service rep informed our Camping World tech that, since Camping Workd sold and installed the unit, it is not Roadmaster's problem. Camping has sealed the diodes and done everything Roadmaster had told them would fix the problem. Now, they are saying if 2 of the wires in the 7-hole connector (I believe it was the yellow and green wires) are getting 12 volts, that could be the problem. If that were the case, why does it work 40% of the time. Needless to say, I am not happy with that response and will never purchase a Roadmaster product again.
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08-09-2015, 10:35 AM
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#35
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Vista, CA
Posts: 127
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Another Invisibrake issue
Had an Invisibrake installed at Camping World back in January this year. Have used our MH on a couple of weekends away and 2 major trips. Upon returning home after each major trip, have discovered that the "monitor wire patch cord, part 450008", which is a simple male to male cable that powers the brake and connects the MH to the Toad has come undone at one end or the other and has dragged on the pavement long enough that the wire is ruined. Of course, the brake no longer functions when this cable is not connected.
So, am about to order my third cable. Its not an expensive part ($6.99 on e-trailer.com), but annoying that I am having to replace this again.
Anyone else have this issue? any solutions to suggest?
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08-09-2015, 10:39 AM
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#36
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Willow Lakes RV & Golf Resort, FL
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No, sorry to hear of your problem. I've had mine for five years and never an issue.
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2012 Providence 42 M. Spartan Chassis, 450 ISL
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08-09-2015, 03:53 PM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
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I had a completly different system, Installed by General RV in Brighton, MI. and that installation also cost me a brake job,, pads and rotors (Expensive) on the towed.. NOTE: the installation was perfect but during the job they removed some 'Skirting' under the dash. (This was a part that came with the car when it was new) and when they re-installed it they moved it about an inch to the right so it held the pedal down and did not release it.. had nothing to do with the braking system.
But it shows how installers can cost you money.
Good thing you figured it out first.. Happy motoring.
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08-20-2015, 02:49 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Punta Gorda, FL
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Camping World is trying to sell me an Invisibrake. About $1300 installed. Should I buy it or go with something else?
They say it takes five hours to install it. Why is it so hard?
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08-20-2015, 02:59 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 337
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Don't let them touch your car or coach
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08-20-2015, 03:52 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: FL
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There is a lot of work installing a brake. Lots of wire to be pulled, perhaps diodes installed, connectors to be installed. Five hours is decent.
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08-21-2015, 05:58 AM
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#41
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Willow Lakes RV & Golf Resort, FL
Posts: 3,163
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The invisibrake system recquires diodes and tying into your coaches electric system. Five hours is probably right. However, the pressure adjustment vs. brake pedal is a must for fine tuning. The tow must be hooked up and driven to see if the right amount of adjustment at the pedal-wire tension is correct. My first experience the brake was slightly applied. Drove five hundred miles no issues but could have cost some shoes. Once set the system is GREAT haven't touched it in five years. I might not trust CW unless you know the installers or know others that have direct experience with this CW. Their certainly marginal at best. Good luck you'll love the system.
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2012 Providence 42 M. Spartan Chassis, 450 ISL
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08-21-2015, 12:33 PM
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#42
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Registered User
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 14
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We have not towed our vehicle for some time due to life and health issues. As we prepare to tow again this fall and after reading all that is on here I am terrified of reconnecting the Invisibrake! I can't afford another set of tires!
Roadmaster wants to look at it at their Vancouver WA factory but I'm awfully nervous about driving it that far!
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