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01-25-2016, 10:20 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: FL
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I checked out my tail lights yesterday. It is a Ford Edge. It would be difficult but not impossible to install my own lights. However the issue would then be the Edge lights coming on via the pedal and the brightness would over ride my turn signals.
So I would need to install a brake light in the main section and a second bulb in the turn signal section. All doable but I may just built a simple slap on set of lights and connect them via my tow hitch and a pin.
My next brake will be the Ready brake. Something simple and mechanical.
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01-25-2016, 01:33 PM
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#100
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Aiken, SC
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Invisabrake...I had the dash light flashing and the RV jerking. It was wet weather. I did suspect the connector. So I dried it off and put "electrical grease" that is used for lights and connectors. I had a small packet that came with the battery deiconnect. The disconnect was another problem. Without it the car battery went dead. I think from the "trickle charge" on the invisabrake. I wired the invisabrak an the powerside of the disconnect.
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01-27-2016, 01:56 PM
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Location: FL
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Using separate bulbs inside the existing fixture is not possible on my vehicle.
The issue I came up with using separate bulbs inside the existing fixture is that the Edge turns the brake light bulbs on and if I am signaling left or right that light will cover up the blinking light.
I have removed the diodes and returned the Edge back to factory status.
Since I have a tow hitch it is now being utilized as a removable tow light mount. This totally isolates the Invisibrake from the toad except for main power.m I will however keep the brake unpowered when not in use.
I will post a picture when it stops raining.
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01-28-2016, 06:31 AM
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#102
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Willow Lakes RV & Golf Resort, FL
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Thanks for info and incoming picture.
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Clay & Pebble
2012 Providence 42 M. Spartan Chassis, 450 ISL
Ford Edge toad, RM All Terrane, TST TPMS, SMI Air Force One, RVM95....
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01-30-2016, 02:48 PM
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#103
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: FL
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The light kit was $20 from HF. A 1 inch square tube from Home Depot is the cross bar. A tiny bit of welding things together and fastening the cross bar to one of my tow bars and the Invisibrake and Edge brakes will never see each other electrically.
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01-30-2016, 10:11 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Willow Lakes RV & Golf Resort, FL
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Darn, that's nice! Necessity is the mother of invention. Is that how it goes? Great Job.
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2012 Providence 42 M. Spartan Chassis, 450 ISL
Ford Edge toad, RM All Terrane, TST TPMS, SMI Air Force One, RVM95....
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01-31-2016, 10:09 AM
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#105
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: FL
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I was tired of buying brake controllers that function poorly. I had a SMI in my last vehicle and had to take it apart and redesign it to work in that setup.
I was going to buy a Ready Brake this Spring but my ego and stubborness got in the way. I spent enough time diagnosing the problem and am confident this will eliminate the majority of issues. I did move my toad wiring connector up much higher to help eliminate any water issues.
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01-31-2016, 10:33 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: FL
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One test not performed is hooking up to the RV and running water into the sockets. I will be towing on Tuesday and hopefully I will remember to drag the water hose out and test.
After re-reading the full thread the common denominator seems to be setups using diodes.
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02-01-2016, 06:49 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Willow Lakes RV & Golf Resort, FL
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Staying subscribed and definitely like the idea of moving the receptacle up!
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Clay & Pebble
2012 Providence 42 M. Spartan Chassis, 450 ISL
Ford Edge toad, RM All Terrane, TST TPMS, SMI Air Force One, RVM95....
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02-25-2016, 03:19 PM
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#108
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Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 269
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I see this end on 02/01/2016. I just purchased an Invisibrake to use on my 2005 Jeep Wrangler. I have separate Brake, Turn, Taillights on the Jeep just for use with the MH. I also installed a power relay and switch (as I have on my other brake systems) to allow the power to be removed from the brake system when not in use (towing). I may get it installed this weekend (or not). But, reading through all these posts, it appears that everyone having a problem was using the tow vehicle Brake, Turn and Tailights with the use of the diode packs. I am hoping that without the diode packs these problems are eliminated. Time will tell.
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02-26-2016, 05:45 AM
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#109
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
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Location: Willow Lakes RV & Golf Resort, FL
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Michael, I hope your correct. I suggest there are other gremlins within ie., plugs for one but others also. I've tried many different solutions and "it" just groans in disgust at me. It's removed and "deep sixed".
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2012 Providence 42 M. Spartan Chassis, 450 ISL
Ford Edge toad, RM All Terrane, TST TPMS, SMI Air Force One, RVM95....
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02-26-2016, 08:13 AM
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#110
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: FL
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I am a stubborn Electronic Tech and really don't want to toss an expensive component in the trash. Since I was able to identify several areas of problems I have removed the diodes and installed a removable light bar. It goes into the tow hitch.
The socket on the front of the Edge was also moved up as far as possible.
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03-07-2016, 09:07 AM
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We had ordered an Invisibrake for our new toad. I had discussed pretty extensively with a national RV store chain, but hadn't done much internet research. After seeing this thread & more research, I went back and told them to cancel the order. When I talked to the parts supervisor, I let her know about the information out there on Invisibrake. This person wasn't surprised; they have had issues but Invisibrake blames it on their installation. The supervisor told me "yeah, I couldn't really say much when you were in here, but I wouldn't put my family in a car with that system on it!" That's crap. I understand corporate policy, and we all know to be careful with corporations, but you are talking about people's lives. I told her what's out there on this system, and someone is going to get killed over it. And when that happens, there is enough prior knowledge that they are going to get sued back to the stone age. Anyway we went with Brake Buddy Vantage, has a remote so I can know if the brakes come on, and when I'm not using it it's completely pulled out of the car--I like that, nothing messing with our original braking system and nothing hooked up when it's not a toad. Thanks all.
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03-08-2016, 06:12 PM
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#112
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Willow Lakes RV & Golf Resort, FL
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You made a wise decision. I'll post when we get our edge back and let folks know what it cost when the brake locked by itself and burned up?
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2012 Providence 42 M. Spartan Chassis, 450 ISL
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