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09-22-2018, 08:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
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FWIW. I tow a 2300 lb. Chevy Spark behind our converted boxtruck which is based on an E 350 with a 7.3 Powestroke diesel. The turbo diesel produces over 500 lb-ft of very useful torque and my gvw is about 12,000 lbs. The Spark adds about 19% to the total weight that my rig is pulling. We just returned from a 1200 mile trip pulling the toad for the first time on a route that we have taken numerous times over the last year and which begins at sea level and ends at over 5,000 ft. While I would agree that the toad is barely noticeable most of the time the effect on steep grades is quite noticeable. I can still maintain good speeds going uphill but the transmission downshifts much more frequently and spends mch more time in lower gears. I cant help but believe that any gasser would be similarly if not more affected. Mathematically I could tow a vehicle that weighs close to 8,000 lbs and still be within my truck's published gcvw, but I sure wouldn't want to. My point being that I would always choose the lightest toad that would serve my needs if for no other reason than to ease the strain on my tow vehicle's powertrain. As a side note, although we bought the Spark based on weight, flat towability, and price; we have since rediscovered the joy of driving a nimble, light weight, economical car. We have 3 other very nice vehicles that each weigh two tons or better and they havent been driven a combined 50 miles during the last month. Of course as always YOMV.
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09-22-2018, 10:16 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Clovis, CA, USA
Posts: 13,138
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I pull a 4,000lb toad with my lowly gasser.
Live in California and travel all over the mountains out here in the west. You'll do fine.
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2004 Monaco La Palma 36DBD, W22, 8.1, 7.1 MPG
2000 LEXUS RX300 FWD 22MPG 4020 LBS
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09-25-2018, 10:59 AM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 8,137
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Based on what I have seen here, I would fix the Equinox while it is under warranty and get rid of it based on ongoing reliability concerns.
Go look at a Honda Fit. It is reliable, lightweight and roomy and will make a really great toad.
The early ones are all towable. Starting with 2015 or 2016 (??) the automatics have a CVT transmission and only the stick shift models are towable so be careful and make sure what you are looking at can be flat towed. You can tell by looking in the owner's manual under "recreational towing".
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2013 Entegra Anthem 44SL
2018 Lincoln MKX
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09-25-2018, 11:22 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Freedom, NH
Posts: 1,520
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I'll offer my opinion on the Sonic. First off, I do have one and flat tow it behind my previous 36 foot Class A gasser and now my current Class B gasser. My Sonic is a 2016 LTZ (i.e. "top of the line") hatchback with the 1.4L turbo engine and 6 speed automatic transmission. I bought it used in 2017 for $12K with an original list price of around $21K. I would never buy a Sonic new. They depreciate way too fast, as can be seen above. Chevy never advertises the Sonic. It's probably a loss leader. Most are sold to rental companies or fleet buyers. That being said, I really enjoy my Sonic. It has given me zero issues. If you decide on buying the 2018, be wise of a few things. I don't believe any "RS" automatic transmission version is towable 4 down. The 1.8L engine uses a timing belt, whereas the 1.4L turbo engine has a timing chain. Belts can break, causing catastrophic engine damage, but chains seldom break.
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2017 Thor Axis 25.5 "RUV", Ford E-450, V10, 6 speed
2016 Chevy Sonic LTZ Auto Hatchback 4-down
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09-26-2018, 08:21 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
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Thanks to everyone for all the support and advice. The initial shock has worn off, and I am currently leaning towards keeping the Equinox long enough to get it fixed, and then probably try to sell it ourselves. I think we can get a fair amount more than the 6K they are offering us for it. That said we are going to go in and look at a Cruze tomorrow to see if the back is big enough. They found a manual one at another dealer, they trade with, and get the price down to actually less than the Sonic was even with its 20% off.
Since this all started though, I have realized that getting a car set up to tow, looks to be close to 3K, and we were originally thinking about a used car to avoid hitting the retirement fund so hard. Probably wise for us to go back to looking at used.
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29' 2001 Coachmen Mirada (SOLD)
33' 2016 Holiday Rambler Vacationer
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09-26-2018, 12:13 PM
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Junior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 6
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Visit chevy dealer...read a 2018 Equinox owners manual. Dinghy (4 wheel down) section. The 2018 Equinox is about 300 lbs lighter than 2017. About 3300 lbs. 4 wheel drive NO. Read other posts on iRV2. Learn how to set up Equinox to tow! Charge line needed from mo ho to toad.
Enjoy....
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11-17-2018, 04:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 420
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Bring down the stuff you want to carry and try them in the Sonic hatchback. We went with hatchback because of the room and the wide opening doors. It is an economical and good traveling car and easy to set up to tow.
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11-17-2018, 08:00 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Freedom, NH
Posts: 1,520
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This is my Sonic, ready to tow. I tow it behind my Class B Roadtrek loaded for a 6 month snowbird stay in FL. The inside of the Sonic is filled with clothes and other accessories. The cargo box has a 2 person inflatable kayak and suit cases. When not being towed, it will comfortably carry 4 people.
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2017 Thor Axis 25.5 "RUV", Ford E-450, V10, 6 speed
2016 Chevy Sonic LTZ Auto Hatchback 4-down
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11-18-2018, 09:54 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 163
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We ended up going for the Cruze. It was just enough bigger in the cargo area.
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29' 2001 Coachmen Mirada (SOLD)
33' 2016 Holiday Rambler Vacationer
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