Go Back   iRV2 Forums > MOTORHOME FORUMS > Toads and Motorhome Related Towing
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-27-2006, 01:35 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
AKBrick's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Was Fairbanks, AK now Somewhere, Lower 48
Posts: 796
To those who use the SMI Silent Partner braking system. (I think I know the answer)
My question is; do you have to use a wiring harness between the motorhome and the toad to indicate braking initiated from the motorhome?
(and)
Do the toad lights come on when the SMI Silent Partner initiates the brakes?
(and)
Does pulling the fuses prevent the toad's lights from coming on when the Silent Partner (or other braking systems) initiates braking?

I just want to make sure that I don't buy a brake light harness without having to. It looks like (from SMI's website schematic) that the smartbox and transmitter initiates the toads brake lights when the motorhome's brake lights come on. Am I all wet here?
I am currently thinking of buying a Saturn Vue and want to get all my ducks in a row. I know that Blue Ox makes a Saturn brake light harness.
Thank you kindly for all your answers to this post.
AKBrick
__________________

__________________
2007 Safari Cheetah 40SFD 350 CAT / Allison 3000 / RR8R chassis.
2007 Saturn Vue Auto/front wheel drive toad. Blue Ox Aladdin tow bar. Apollo brake system, Pressure Pro, Surge Guard. 2 Norwich Terriers. Dog shows, golf, RETIRED, fulltimer.
AKBrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 05-27-2006, 01:35 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
AKBrick's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Was Fairbanks, AK now Somewhere, Lower 48
Posts: 796
To those who use the SMI Silent Partner braking system. (I think I know the answer)
My question is; do you have to use a wiring harness between the motorhome and the toad to indicate braking initiated from the motorhome?
(and)
Do the toad lights come on when the SMI Silent Partner initiates the brakes?
(and)
Does pulling the fuses prevent the toad's lights from coming on when the Silent Partner (or other braking systems) initiates braking?

I just want to make sure that I don't buy a brake light harness without having to. It looks like (from SMI's website schematic) that the smartbox and transmitter initiates the toads brake lights when the motorhome's brake lights come on. Am I all wet here?
I am currently thinking of buying a Saturn Vue and want to get all my ducks in a row. I know that Blue Ox makes a Saturn brake light harness.
Thank you kindly for all your answers to this post.
AKBrick
__________________

__________________
2007 Safari Cheetah 40SFD 350 CAT / Allison 3000 / RR8R chassis.
2007 Saturn Vue Auto/front wheel drive toad. Blue Ox Aladdin tow bar. Apollo brake system, Pressure Pro, Surge Guard. 2 Norwich Terriers. Dog shows, golf, RETIRED, fulltimer.
AKBrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2006, 03:53 AM   #3
Administrator Emeritus
 
rebelsbeach's Avatar


 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 9,717
This one shows the "small plug" to the small plug,I actually have the 7 pin plug to the small plug,as it was just easier to use the existing plug on coach and not mount the extra one...
It's not listed on their site so you need to call them for part number...I never pull any fuses so someone else can answer that...I'm currently towing a 2005 Chevy Trailblazer with an '06 Vectra...

__________________
2017 40' Renegade Verona LE LTS
2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4 door
Blue Ox Avail and SMI Air Force One
rebelsbeach is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2006, 07:04 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
MikeT's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Nor'easters Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Silver Springs, FL 34488
Posts: 466
As with all braking systems, unless some modifications are done, when the supplemental system operates the brake pedal of the toad, its brake lights will operate. The signal from the motor home should not operate the toad brake lights. The toad brake pedal, when depressed, sends a signal to the coach that the toad brakes are on with the SMI systems. That is the "cold" wire they (SMI) refer to in the install instructions. This is for the toad, they (SMI) also use the "cold" side of the coach brake light switch to send a signal to the toad along with the inertial signal to apply the toad brakes.
__________________
MikeT__and_Mo T
'05 Voyage, W20, SMI, '06 CR-V
Ginger, the cat --Daisy, the dog
MikeT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2006, 07:48 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Richmond Hill, GA USA
Posts: 671
The SMI Silent Parter communicates in both directions by radio signal. You will need a wiring harness to (1) provide running lights on the toad and (2) provide brake lights on the toad for those stops where the toad brakes do not activate due to the sensitivy setting on the SMI brake controller (not all stops will activate the toad brake and therefore the toad brake lights).
__________________
Fred & Vicki
St. Augustine, Fl.
Fred Cooper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2006, 12:56 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
AKBrick's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Was Fairbanks, AK now Somewhere, Lower 48
Posts: 796
Thank you all,
Very good input and I've learned a lot. Everything makes sence. Now all I have to do is get my toad. Other than the SMI Silent Partner, I'm going with Blue Ox all of the way around.
Again, thank you.

AKBrick
__________________

__________________
2007 Safari Cheetah 40SFD 350 CAT / Allison 3000 / RR8R chassis.
2007 Saturn Vue Auto/front wheel drive toad. Blue Ox Aladdin tow bar. Apollo brake system, Pressure Pro, Surge Guard. 2 Norwich Terriers. Dog shows, golf, RETIRED, fulltimer.
AKBrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
SMI ---- Silent Partner Toad Brake David K Toads and Motorhome Related Towing 5 09-22-2007 03:45 PM
SMI Silent Partner Installation Notes SteveR Toads and Motorhome Related Towing 1 04-06-2007 05:33 AM
SMI Silent Partner Install - 2007 Suburban JerryKelly Toads and Motorhome Related Towing 4 02-14-2007 04:24 PM
SMI Silent Partner Spoonman Toads and Motorhome Related Towing 3 08-15-2006 09:40 PM
SMI Silent Partner rebelsbeach Gear and Product Discussions 3 04-16-2006 06:52 AM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.