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Old 09-21-2015, 12:32 AM   #15
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My 2013 2-door Sport S gets nearly 22 mpg on the road. Mixed driving around 17. Its handling characteristics on the highway are a little "twitchy." With the hardtop on it's noisier than my VW Jetta but not unpleasant. My wife didn't like it at first because of the ride and the first tankfuls around town showed pretty poor mpgs. Now that she sees where it can take us, she loves it. Still needs a winch, some rock rails and a decent rear bumper. Yeah, that's where Jeep money goes to upgrades.
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We tow a 2012 Liberty - does have drive train noise with the radio off so I leave it on. Ride and handling is fine - never checked the milage but its better than the Coach
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4X4 with a soft top. What more to say?
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Hello, so we are thinking about a 2012 or later 4-door jeep for our MH's max 5,000# limit. Any reason why we should not go with this decision?
Hi Stinson's,

This is one of the questions that is difficult for someone else to answer. You've already gotten lots of feedback here. Obviously, a Wrangler is not like driving a Lexus. Some questions to consider:

Do you plan to make long road trips with it (driving it, not in tow)?

What types of recreation do you enjoy at your destination? If exploring trails, logging roads, and back-country spots, it is pretty tough to beat the Wrangler.

Do you really need the four door? I have the two door (just me) and love it. I removed the back seat and it is now my "garage" (I'm a full-timer). I store a road bike, mountain bike, fishing gear, kayak gear and some misc. outdoor gear in the back (kayak on top). A four door would add some space for this type of stuff but it isn't really needed in my case.

What type of transmission do you want? I have no experience with the auto, I think it is just as easy to tow four-down as the manual. Maybe someone could confirm that. I do know the manual tranny (without steering wheel lock) is VERY simple to tow (transfer case in neutral, tranny in gear, emergency brake off - done).

Be careful with your purchase to get a variant of the Wrangler that does not have a steering wheel lock (or can be defeated). Not having the lock allows you to tow without having they key and turned to unlock the wheel.
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Tow our 2008 Rubicon 4 door, life's to short to worry about the mileage.....
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please tell me about towing without a key. I have a 2013 JKU, do you not need to unlock the steering?

We have a 2014 Wrangler 4-door Dragon Edition, although I did remove the dragon decal ass soon as I got it home, bought that model cause it had all the goodies that I wanted. We tow four down all the time, no steering wheel lock on ours.
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Wow, seems to be a Love/Hate situation. I thought I wanted the two-door but then everyone I stop and talk with suggests getting the four-door. I could use the extra space too for we often travel with family so that should answer our choice regarding comfort getting in and out. We are not off-the-road often but when we are out there we drag the bottom and there are times when it would be a lot of fun just having a jeep on the beach and trails. We only have a 200 hp diesel but we could just drive the jeep when approaching difficult incline mountain areas. We expect to make a lot of near cross country trips. We have not driven one yet, but our neighbor recently purchased a four-door and he has offered to let us take it out. My only concern is if my wife can see out of it due to the high dashboard - we will see. So, we are now leaning for the 2012 four-door, manual transmission (we both like manual), soft top, no steering lock, and an extra set of (low-profile) doors just because. Thank you for your comments.
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If you can find a clean one they made a longer wheel base 2dr from 2004 to 2006 also officially called a Unlimited like the 4 door is now called, most jeepers just call it an LJ. It was 15" longer than the regular 2dr, 5" more rear leg room and 10" more cargo space.

Between the kids and I we have 5 Wranglers, 97 to 2013, I have the 2006 LJ Rubicon, wife has a 2013 4dr Rubicon.

If you have more than 2 people the 4 dr is great. For only 2 the 2dr with rear seats removed is even better. The 2dr is less likely to high center has a tighter turn radius.

I do all my own work on all 5 let me know if you have any questions.



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...soft top, no steering lock, and an extra set of (low-profile) doors just because.
That statement alone tells me you are going to love it!!
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That statement alone tells me you are going to love it!!
And by looking for a '12 or newer he gets the better engine and tranny. However, if he's looking for factory half doors he's going to be in for major sticker shock. I priced them back in '08 and they wanted $7k for a set of four, unpainted and not assembled.

Filthy-Beast, great looking LJ. I've been running the Rubicon since '78 and I think, if built right, they're the best rock crawler ever made.
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please tell me about towing without a key. I have a 2013 JKU, do you not need to unlock the steering?
I have a 2013 JKU and do not need the key to tow it. The steering wheel does not lock.
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Let me put it this way.. I would love such a Jeep as a Towed. But I'm not you.

First Jeeps come in 3 basic flavors 2WD (used by the post office for example) Full Time or Automatic 4WD (Can not be towed 4 down) and Manual Transfer Case 4WD (MOST can be towed 4 down but not all)

Finding a 4wd under 5,000 may be a problem..
Second you may not be able to tow 5,000 My coach can only tow 4,000 (Though the hitch is a 5K the House can only tow 4).

I owned a 4wd Jeep..... For 4 days.
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Finding a 4wd under 5,000 may be a problem.
Not entirely accurate. Yes a 4wd truck under 5,000 can't be found. Jeeps are different. The 2dr Wrangler weighs in at about 3,750 and the 4dr is about 4,300 depending on some options.
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And by looking for a '12 or newer he gets the better engine and tranny. However, if he's looking for factory half doors he's going to be in for major sticker shock. I priced them back in '08 and they wanted $7k for a set of four, unpainted and not assembled.

Filthy-Beast, great looking LJ. I've been running the Rubicon since '78 and I think, if built right, they're the best rock crawler ever made.
Thanks, the Rubicon is on my bucket list.

If I ever buy new it will be factory ordered with half doors. I've never seen one on a dealer lot. I have been thinking hard about trail doors with an outer skin.
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