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09-21-2015, 12:32 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: SW Oregon
Posts: 665
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My 2013 2-door Sport S gets nearly 22 mpg on the road. Mixed driving around 17. Its handling characteristics on the highway are a little "twitchy." With the hardtop on it's noisier than my VW Jetta but not unpleasant. My wife didn't like it at first because of the ride and the first tankfuls around town showed pretty poor mpgs. Now that she sees where it can take us, she loves it. Still needs a winch, some rock rails and a decent rear bumper. Yeah, that's where Jeep money goes to upgrades.
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2015 Bay Star 3103, 2013 Jeep Wrangler Sport S
Falcon 2 All terrain tow bar, RVi2 brake, Towmate TM3 wireless lights
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09-21-2015, 07:14 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: South Padre Island
Posts: 442
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We tow a 2012 Liberty - does have drive train noise with the radio off so I leave it on. Ride and handling is fine - never checked the milage but its better than the Coach
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My two youngest in Coast Guard
2006 Monaco Knight 40ft
2012 Jeep Liberty
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09-21-2015, 07:27 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 221
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4X4 with a soft top. What more to say?
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2013 Jeep JKU Toad
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09-21-2015, 07:40 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Solo Rvers Club
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Mountain West
Posts: 1,178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinson
Hello, so we are thinking about a 2012 or later 4-door jeep for our MH's max 5,000# limit. Any reason why we should not go with this decision?
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Hi Stinson's,
This is one of the questions that is difficult for someone else to answer. You've already gotten lots of feedback here. Obviously, a Wrangler is not like driving a Lexus. Some questions to consider:
Do you plan to make long road trips with it (driving it, not in tow)?
What types of recreation do you enjoy at your destination? If exploring trails, logging roads, and back-country spots, it is pretty tough to beat the Wrangler.
Do you really need the four door? I have the two door (just me) and love it. I removed the back seat and it is now my "garage" (I'm a full-timer). I store a road bike, mountain bike, fishing gear, kayak gear and some misc. outdoor gear in the back (kayak on top). A four door would add some space for this type of stuff but it isn't really needed in my case.
What type of transmission do you want? I have no experience with the auto, I think it is just as easy to tow four-down as the manual. Maybe someone could confirm that. I do know the manual tranny (without steering wheel lock) is VERY simple to tow (transfer case in neutral, tranny in gear, emergency brake off - done).
Be careful with your purchase to get a variant of the Wrangler that does not have a steering wheel lock (or can be defeated). Not having the lock allows you to tow without having they key and turned to unlock the wheel.
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Missy - 1998 MCI 102-EL3
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09-21-2015, 07:46 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Henderson, Nevada
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Tow our 2008 Rubicon 4 door, life's to short to worry about the mileage.....
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09-21-2015, 08:16 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fulton NY
Posts: 416
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mpm2433
please tell me about towing without a key. I have a 2013 JKU, do you not need to unlock the steering?
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We have a 2014 Wrangler 4-door Dragon Edition, although I did remove the dragon decal ass soon as I got it home, bought that model cause it had all the goodies that I wanted. We tow four down all the time, no steering wheel lock on ours.
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2015 Dutch Star 4369
All Electric Coach
HWH Active Air Suspension 2014 Wrangler
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09-22-2015, 12:29 AM
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 66
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Wow, seems to be a Love/Hate situation. I thought I wanted the two-door but then everyone I stop and talk with suggests getting the four-door. I could use the extra space too for we often travel with family so that should answer our choice regarding comfort getting in and out. We are not off-the-road often but when we are out there we drag the bottom and there are times when it would be a lot of fun just having a jeep on the beach and trails. We only have a 200 hp diesel but we could just drive the jeep when approaching difficult incline mountain areas. We expect to make a lot of near cross country trips. We have not driven one yet, but our neighbor recently purchased a four-door and he has offered to let us take it out. My only concern is if my wife can see out of it due to the high dashboard - we will see. So, we are now leaning for the 2012 four-door, manual transmission (we both like manual), soft top, no steering lock, and an extra set of (low-profile) doors just because. Thank you for your comments.
Stinsons
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09-22-2015, 06:31 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Chicago Area
Posts: 635
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If you can find a clean one they made a longer wheel base 2dr from 2004 to 2006 also officially called a Unlimited like the 4 door is now called, most jeepers just call it an LJ. It was 15" longer than the regular 2dr, 5" more rear leg room and 10" more cargo space.
Between the kids and I we have 5 Wranglers, 97 to 2013, I have the 2006 LJ Rubicon, wife has a 2013 4dr Rubicon.
If you have more than 2 people the 4 dr is great. For only 2 the 2dr with rear seats removed is even better. The 2dr is less likely to high center has a tighter turn radius.
I do all my own work on all 5 let me know if you have any questions.
Here's my 2006 Rubicon
and here's the wife's 2013 4dr Rubi
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09-22-2015, 07:32 AM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Solo Rvers Club
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Mountain West
Posts: 1,178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stinson
...soft top, no steering lock, and an extra set of (low-profile) doors just because.
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That statement alone tells me you are going to love it!!
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Missy - 1998 MCI 102-EL3
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09-22-2015, 08:08 AM
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Senior Member
American Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: No Cal
Posts: 501
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JFNM
That statement alone tells me you are going to love it!!
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And by looking for a '12 or newer he gets the better engine and tranny. However, if he's looking for factory half doors he's going to be in for major sticker shock. I priced them back in '08 and they wanted $7k for a set of four, unpainted and not assembled.
Filthy-Beast, great looking LJ. I've been running the Rubicon since '78 and I think, if built right, they're the best rock crawler ever made.
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2014 American Eagle (Totaled)
12 JKU Rubicon or 18 GMC Canyon diesel
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09-22-2015, 08:16 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: California
Posts: 611
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mpm2433
please tell me about towing without a key. I have a 2013 JKU, do you not need to unlock the steering?
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I have a 2013 JKU and do not need the key to tow it. The steering wheel does not lock.
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2007 Chev Classic CC LB D/A - Toad
2013 Jeep Sahara Unlimited - Backup Toad
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09-22-2015, 10:40 AM
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Senior Member
Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 24,024
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Let me put it this way.. I would love such a Jeep as a Towed. But I'm not you.
First Jeeps come in 3 basic flavors 2WD (used by the post office for example) Full Time or Automatic 4WD (Can not be towed 4 down) and Manual Transfer Case 4WD (MOST can be towed 4 down but not all)
Finding a 4wd under 5,000 may be a problem..
Second you may not be able to tow 5,000 My coach can only tow 4,000 (Though the hitch is a 5K the House can only tow 4).
I owned a 4wd Jeep..... For 4 days.
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09-22-2015, 12:00 PM
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Community Administrator
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 21,256
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wa8yxm
Finding a 4wd under 5,000 may be a problem.
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Not entirely accurate. Yes a 4wd truck under 5,000 can't be found. Jeeps are different. The 2dr Wrangler weighs in at about 3,750 and the 4dr is about 4,300 depending on some options.
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Previous '15 Tiffin Allegro RED 38QRA and '06 Itasca Sunrise 35A
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09-22-2015, 12:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Chicago Area
Posts: 635
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Quote:
Originally Posted by exgman
And by looking for a '12 or newer he gets the better engine and tranny. However, if he's looking for factory half doors he's going to be in for major sticker shock. I priced them back in '08 and they wanted $7k for a set of four, unpainted and not assembled.
Filthy-Beast, great looking LJ. I've been running the Rubicon since '78 and I think, if built right, they're the best rock crawler ever made.
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Thanks, the Rubicon is on my bucket list.
If I ever buy new it will be factory ordered with half doors. I've never seen one on a dealer lot. I have been thinking hard about trail doors with an outer skin.
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