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Old 08-25-2019, 04:03 AM   #113
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While the new front brackets are being produced, an InvisiBrake system is on it's way to me.

I like that there isn't a box that needs to be placed into the and out of the driver's footwell every time, but is there a big issue with InvisiBrake systems?
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While the new front brackets are being produced, an InvisiBrake system is on it's way to me.

I like that there isn't a box that needs to be placed into the and out of the driver's footwell every time, but is there a big issue with InvisiBrake systems?
Not that Iíve heard of. The system is wired into your brake system and the main unit is discretely hidden, Iíve known several people who had the invisibrake and they are happy with the performance. Also the braking pressure can be adjusted to suit your braking needs. I personally use a non electric braking system that works off of the kinetic energy from my tow vehicle. No wiring, and easy to connect and disconnect. Good luck.
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I'm not really sure you can flat tow that car! Check your owners manual and call BMW!
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I'm not really sure you can flat tow that car! Check your owners manual and call BMW!
You might want to read the thread. That's been discussed ad infinitum.
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I agree. Those of us who have had to back up a loaded hay wagon into a shed or maneuver a 40' field cultivator around irrigation drive units, or move a 12 row corn planter through town without clipping mail boxes or parked cars, have a different set of skills than the person who hasn't driven much more than a pickup. What seems second nature to some is impossible to others. Different backgrounds and life's experiences results in different skill levels.
And hay wagons have a completely different steering geometry from 4 down toads. Apples and oranges.
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And hay wagons have a completely different steering geometry from 4 down toads. Apples and oranges.
Exactly! Backing a trailer into a confined space is an easy task, but many would have trouble backing a four wheeled wagon into that same space. It requires reverse thinking that farm boys and girls learned how to do it at an early age. Once you have mastered the wagon, Motorhomes with trailers or toads are just a walk in the park.
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I'm not really sure you can flat tow that car! Check your owners manual and call BMW!
To answer your and others' comments about towing a BMW 5 series...you don't call the dealer or Blue Ox or Remco or anybody else because they don't make base plates for the cars. That doesn't mean that you can't make a baseplate.

A 5-speed manual transmission from ZF is the same as an other manual tranny and they can be towed, so what we're doing is fabricating a baseplate, attaching to the Blue Ox tow bar, and now we'll add an Invisibrake to the system.

It's a work in progress, but to answer your concern, the answer is Yes.
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Any toad weighing over 3,000# must have braking assist by law.
Not true.
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Not true.
What do you know about it? If so, I just bought an Invisibrake system for fun but the break-away is a comfort.

What is your take on weight?
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Not true.
I'll correct it to read that 40 states require auxiliary brakes on a toad weighing 3,000#. Of those, three require brakes at 2,000#, four at 1500# and one at 1,000#. Another two require brakes on anything. Only Missouri and Kentucky do not require aux brakes on a toad. Soooo, if you are only going to travel in those two states, you do not need aux brakes. If you want to tow a vehicle in Mass you only need brakes if it's 10,000#.
This is based on 2005 law. More states may require brakes now.

I'll add that there is no good reason not to have aux brakes on any towed vehicle or trailer regardless where you are driving.
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And hay wagons have a completely different steering geometry from 4 down toads. Apples and oranges.
Not always true.
Some of our older (really old) wagons had center-pivot draws. Most of them, and including the grain wagons, had fixed axles with steerable wheels - you know, knuckles, tie rods and all. Time to step into the late 70's!

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Here's one like what my uncle used while I was growing up.
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Here are the state laws for auxiliary brakes. Check toward the bottom.

Towing Laws | Brake Buddyģ
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I just bought an Invisibrake system for fun but the break-away is a comfort.

Comfort? Thatís just dumb. Tell that to family you can kill when this jerry-rigged setup comes off at 60mph and your 3000lb car is ghost riding and wonít stop till hits something.

Please post your itineraries, I donít want to be anywhere near this backyard setup. Youíre putting your familyís and more importantly other peoples lives at risk. Sell that car, buy one that can be towed 4 down and do right or not at all.
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I just bought an Invisibrake system for fun but the break-away is a comfort.

Comfort? Thatís just dumb. Tell that to family you can kill when this jerry-rigged setup comes off at 60mph and your 3000lb car is ghost riding and wonít stop till hits something.

Please post your itineraries, I donít want to be anywhere near this backyard setup. Youíre putting your familyís and more importantly other peoples lives at risk. Sell that car, buy one that can be towed 4 down and do right or not at all.
Wow, pretty harsh.
So that's your professional opinion? What year did you gain your PE? Are you a degreed mechanical engineer, or perhaps a metallurgist?

Are you currently involved in fabrication or welding of any type (pipe, all-position, etc.)?

It's odd how people project their own lack of abilities onto everyone else. Just because you don't know how to build something, doesn't always mean that someone else is also similarly constrained.

I fabricated the tow points for my '95 Wrangler YJ. it's been towed all over - safely. Before everybody owned a Jeep, you had to be able to construct your own tow connections.

I watched my neighbor build a sand rail once. That thing was awesome. He built it from scratch using drill stem and sheet steel. He then grafted the steering and front suspension, along with the rear power cradle from a Corvair onto the frame. His daughter drove that thing for years.
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