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Old 11-28-2014, 10:27 PM   #1
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Simple Trailer wiring question

I'm setting up my Seabreeze coach to pull my Ford Ranger 4 down. Coach has 5 post round socket and separate turn signals and brake. Dinghy has combined turn/brake and tailights. My question is do I really need something like the Brite-Lite Converter to make it work? Could I simply wire the brake wire in the coach to the left and right turn signal wires in the 4 prong wiring to the dinghy? Maybe I would have to isolate the brake wires with a couple of diodes so as to not backfeed the coach. I think I may be over complicating this. Any advice is very welcome.
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:12 AM   #2
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You could, but then you wouldn't have blinkers on the toad.

You could add diodes to both the blinker and brake wires on the coach, than wire each up to the toad so everything worked.

Of coarse that is just building the converter yourself.

So either way your ending up with a converter, up to you to decide how much work you're willing to go through.
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Old 11-29-2014, 10:19 AM   #3
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You could, but then you wouldn't have blinkers on the toad.

You could add diodes to both the blinker and brake wires on the coach, than wire each up to the toad so everything worked.

Of coarse that is just building the converter yourself.

So either way your ending up with a converter, up to you to decide how much work you're willing to go through.
Agree....the converter is your diodes....done.
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I'm setting up my Seabreeze coach to pull my Ford Ranger 4 down. Coach has 5 post round socket and separate turn signals and brake. Dinghy has combined turn/brake and tailights. My question is do I really need something like the Brite-Lite Converter to make it work? Could I simply wire the brake wire in the coach to the left and right turn signal wires in the 4 prong wiring to the dinghy? Maybe I would have to isolate the brake wires with a couple of diodes so as to not backfeed the coach. I think I may be over complicating this. Any advice is very welcome.
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Strictly speaking from a "safety sake", wiring the converter box into the system is the way to go. Think about it. If you were following you, on or in a busy traffic condition, and you (driving the coach) wanted to merge into a lane from a disappearing lane or, wanting to turn and brake with the sun to your back, and the drivers behind you cannot decipher what you're going to do because you have no turn signals, it COULD be disastrous.

Now, it's up to you but, I've wired in a ton of those converters, in both layouts several times. I say both because you can have it two different ways. One is "3 wire to 2 wire" and the other is a "2 wire to 3 wire". Both models work slick and make things seem just like normal for a driver following your toad which, it what I really like. I really like the tail lights in my toad to look and act, when I'm towing it, just like they do when I'm driving it. That's what drivers behind it kind of "expect" to see. Your choice.
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Starman38, the converter just gets you from a 3 wire brake/turn to a 2 wire brake/turn you will still need to add the diodes on the ranger brake lights.
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Thanks for the replies. First, I would never drive without proper turn, brake, and tailights on toad or coach. I've been confused on the 3 to 2, 6 to 4, etc. stuff. I have a Roadmaster Universal 4 way light kit (with 4 diodes) for the Ranger's 2 wire tailight, brake/turn setup. No problem there. At the coach, I have a 6 wire round receptacle that has only: tailights, brake lights, r turn, l turn. I bought a Pollack 6 to 4 way adapter. It plugs right into the coach 6 way. This adapter is one piece molded. I tested it with my 12v tester and tailights ok, rt ok, lt ok. No brake lights. The adapter brake feed is on the unused pin on my coach and I would have to move the brake ight wire on the coach receptacle to the correct pin to line up and feed the adapter properly. Is this ok ? Anyone familiar with this adapter? It is only a $10 item and is way less than the BriteLite. I wondered if it simply splits the brake light feed and applies it to the turn signal lines.
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Starman38, The Pollack 6 way to 4 way adapter is just that a passive adapter. Just changes the LT, RT. TL and GD pin configuration from 6 pole roll to 4 pole flat.
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If I've got it right, the Pollack adapter won't get the coach brakelights to the dinghy without another wire. Then I would still have to convert it to get the combined B/T signals. Looks like the BriteLite converter is the most straighforward approach, correct?
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Starman38, that is correct. I would install it before the plug on your coach.
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I will do that. Thanks for the help.
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