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Old 04-03-2016, 01:47 PM   #1
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SMI Stay-in-Play Duo who uses one

Have to get a braking system and would like to know how this one is working out for those who use it. Also install it myself yes or no.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:27 PM   #2
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I had the Stay n Play installed on my 2013 CRV when I had a gasser. I now have a DP and have made no changes to the system. Just hook it up and go, same as I did with the gasser.
A little over three years of travel and have had no problem. Just read the instructions on how to adjust it properly and you should have no problems.
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Have one in my Xterra. Works great. No issues. Install is a bit challenging but do-able by a home mechanic.
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Old 04-03-2016, 07:55 PM   #4
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I installed a Duo in our Honda Fit. It works well.
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:12 AM   #5
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I had the Stay n Play installed on my 2013 CRV when I had a gasser. I now have a DP and have made no changes to the system. Just hook it up and go, same as I did with the gasser.
A little over three years of travel and have had no problem. Just read the instructions on how to adjust it properly and you should have no problems.
I have the stay n play and went from a gas to a DP

My toad is a Ford Edge.

I installed a small led light on the cross bar on the toad that come on when the braking system engages so it it visible is the rear view camera.

The light makes it very easy to set the sensitivity.
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:56 AM   #6
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I have the earlier version, it's over ten years old. The old one has a big box which we have under the passenger seat. We're very happy with it, there have been a couple of times where I think it saved me from hitting someone who pulled in front of me and hit the brakes!

It was reasonably easy to install, you do have to cut the brake booster vacuum line so if you're concerned about that I'd leave it to a pro. Here's a link to the instructions.

About three years ago the pump started running more than usual, so much that the battery in the toad was run down after a day of driving (never had it run the battery down before). All the external connections were leak-free do I took the box apart to see what I could see. It turned out to be a leaky solenoid air valve. Replaced that for $25 and it's worked fine since.

BTW you definitely want the light as Tom suggested. We have the RF version and it works except it gives false alarms a lot.
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Here are a few more details on our installation.

The Honda Fit is a small car, with not a lot of open space under the hood. Finding a place to mount the system unit took a while. In addition, it took a while to determine how to run the wires and vacuum cylinder line through the firewall. Some cars won't require as much time to work through these details.

You can install it yourself, if you are handy with tools and willing to disassemble/reassemble some trim parts on your vehicle.

I elected to run the brake notification signal from the Fit to an LED on the dash of the coach, via the "blue" brake wire common to six- and seven-pin hitch connectors. This is an alternative to the cross-bar light Tom uses.

Finally, I activated the 12V charge line between coach and Fit to keep the latter's battery charged. That way I could be sure the braking system would not run out of power during long days of towing (as the Fit's battery is very small).
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I just completed the install in our 2003 Honda Element, it took me maybe 4 hours, a good chunk of that was just me being completely anal about how I ran wiring and trying to keep things tidy. I was able to get the hydraulic ram installed easily and I elected to run a bolt with a fender washer and a nylock on the back side. I mounted it high enough up to clear my size 14 giant feet.


The most time was taking the front off the car so I could mount the breakaway switch on the tow par as it had no bracket for that. I put in a six way plug on front of the Honda using one wire to the notification LED and the other to charge the Honda's battery.


At the moment the notification LED is not functioning as I expected but it hit me last night I had forgotten to connect the white ground wire from the tow connecter to the Honda chassis so I think likely I have a floating ground.


When we tested everything else it seems to work quite well, will know more after we tow it this weekend.
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I also have the Stay'n'Play on a DP. Had it installed when I had a SuperC without air brakes. Now have a Class A DP and still use the same unit. No problems with it. If I ever need to replace it (or the TOAD), I'll probably go with the AF1 since I'll likely always have a DP from here on.

My only issue is that the installer opted to install the notification on the TOAD rather than on the driving unit -- can't really see the light on the TOAD when it's activated, so....no biggie...I know it's braking
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I've had mine for 6 years, 76,000 miles works great, never
had any problems. I have it in an 09 explorer, behind my
40' DP. Easy install, simple to use. Perfect...... plus great
support and service from them if you have any questions.
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Pulled over the weekend, couldn't have been easier to setup a little tweaking on the gain knob once we started rolling but worked great. It was definitely worth running the LED back up the trailer brake line in the back of the rig to the dashboard, it was nice seeing that light come on to know the brakes were working, so far super pleased with this unit, so easy.
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