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05-13-2015, 12:32 PM
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Some side to side toad movement
I have a '99 Suzuki Vitara with a blue ox base plate and blue ox alladin tow bar. I bought the suzuki for this purpose and did the baseplate install myself. When towing straight on a flat road, everything looks fine. When in mountainous conditions (curves, up and down) I can see some side to side motion in the toad as I look at it in my rear camera. The key is in the on position and steering wheel free to move per owners manual. I'm wondering if this is normal, or do I need an alignment or something on the toad? Thoughts?
Thanks
Bill
BTW, I always confirm the tow bars are locked in the extended position before I hit the highway.
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05-13-2015, 12:59 PM
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By the way the toad is attached to the coach , the overhang and swing of the rear bumper/hitch, of the coach, will push the toad to the outside of the corner , before it starts to pull the toad around the corner. So some movement is normal, if you're not getting any unusual tire wear on the toad , I'm sure you don't have a problem.
BUT; If you're concerned, maybe a re-torque of the baseplate mount bolts is in order.
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05-13-2015, 02:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip426
By the way the toad is attached to the coach , the overhang and swing of the rear bumper/hitch, of the coach, will push the toad to the outside of the corner , before it starts to pull the toad around the corner. So some movement is normal, if you're not getting any unusual tire wear on the toad , I'm sure you don't have a problem.
BUT; If you're concerned, maybe a re-torque of the baseplate mount bolts is in order.
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Thanks Skip. It was a recent install on the baseplate but I always eyeball the bolts and check that the plate is rigid in place. I'll watch for uneven tire wear. Thanks
Bill
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05-15-2015, 09:45 AM
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I agree with Skip, from personal experience with a long rear overhang on our MH and a heavy toad, the toad will go in the opposite direction of the MH, before it starts to follow. In our case, the MH is relatively light and the toad is heavy, it actually causes a fair amount of oversteer in the MH that causes some handling issues.
I would think as long as there are no loud noises coming from the tow bar and all the bolts are tight, and you don't feel anything unusual, its fine.
Another thing maybe that between the normal movement of the motorhome and normal movement of the toad, the view you are seeing through the camera is being exaggerated, making it look more than it really is.
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05-15-2015, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Percival6
I agree with Skip, from personal experience with a long rear overhang on our MH and a heavy toad, the toad will go in the opposite direction of the MH, before it starts to follow. In our case, the MH is relatively light and the toad is heavy, it actually causes a fair amount of oversteer in the MH that causes some handling issues.
I would think as long as there are no loud noises coming from the tow bar and all the bolts are tight, and you don't feel anything unusual, its fine.
Another thing maybe that between the normal movement of the motorhome and normal movement of the toad, the view you are seeing through the camera is being exaggerated, making it look more than it really is.
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Good info, thanks Percival. See ya going down Hwy 80!
Bill
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05-18-2015, 03:15 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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billinwoodla,
sounds like you need a ''hitch immobilizer''.
I like the roadmaster unit the best.
a track bar on the rear axle made a big difference on my Moho.
the hitch immobilizer is inexpensive, I suggest you try it first.
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05-18-2015, 03:53 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Billinwoodla
I have a '99 Suzuki Vitara with a blue ox base plate and blue ox alladin tow bar. I bought the suzuki for this purpose and did the baseplate install myself. When towing straight on a flat road, everything looks fine. When in mountainous conditions (curves, up and down) I can see some side to side motion in the toad as I look at it in my rear camera. The key is in the on position and steering wheel free to move per owners manual. I'm wondering if this is normal, or do I need an alignment or something on the toad? Thoughts?
Thanks
Bill
BTW, I always confirm the tow bars are locked in the extended position before I hit the highway.
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I had the same problem a couple years ago, ordered a rebuild kit from e-trailer, rebuilt the tow bar. The tow bar was in bad need of a rebuild and the slop allowed the TOAD to wander from side to side. Also check the side to side slop in your receiver mount, if excessive, it will add to the side to side movement of the TOAD also. I did a little welding on the tow bar mount to make it fit tight when in the receiver. No more TOAD wondering. Hope this helps......
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05-19-2015, 10:30 PM
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The toad drives fine. I'll check out that hitch stabilizer.
Thanks
Bill
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05-22-2015, 06:41 AM
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Thor Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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NSA also makes a De-rattler which removes the side to side movement. I use this.
De-Rattler - NSA RV Products
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05-23-2015, 05:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterrrr
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Since I have the ready brake, this looks like the best option for me.
Thanks
Bill
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