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Old 04-30-2014, 12:35 PM   #15
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If you are within your state limit were your coach is register is that ok or what state your traveling through.
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:07 PM   #16
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Endo,

I don't think so. States have reciprocal agreements to honor "drivers licenses" (i.e. your operators license), but this is not true for all other laws. I know you have to meet the laws of the state you are driving in for weight and brake requirements for any toad you have, so I'm pretty sure the same would apply for length laws. You very probably have to meet the requirements of the state you are driving in.
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Old 04-30-2014, 03:13 PM   #17
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State laws apply. Some states you can get an over length permit like in Fla. They are only like $25 for the year.

I did read somewhere that on any federally funded interstate 65' was allowed even if state law was shorter. Not sure if it is true but would make sense.

Fortunately for most of us MH owners with the fancy swirly paint jobs the cops have not bothered us much. They are still very busy going after the racers with the big white box MHs and 32'+ stackers. I have seen some at the races than must be 85'.
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:58 PM   #18
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I was actually pulled over a few years ago in Ca for speeding. My mistake as I was out in the 3rd lane passing some congestion so I could get back in my lane. He wrote me up for being 8 over but never mentioned my lenght. I am over 80 ft and Ca is 65. I normally have the cruise set at 55mph in Ca as to not draw attention.
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I was actually pulled over a few years ago in Ca for speeding. My mistake as I was out in the 3rd lane passing some congestion so I could get back in my lane. He wrote me up for being 8 over but never mentioned my lenght. I am over 80 ft and Ca is 65. I normally have the cruise set at 55mph in Ca as to not draw attention.
Not sure how CA works but in my jurisdiction there are separate responsibilities for enforcement. We have traffic enforcement which is under the Solicitor General and Commercial Vehicle Enforcement which is under the DOT.

While both are able to write tickets in the others jurisdiction I don't think they are set up specifically to do that. The traffic enforcement may not have tapes and portable scales while the Commercial Vehicle Enforcement may not have radar guns.

You also may have been lucky that day. If he would have measured you and written you up he would have had to stay until a tow truck had been summoned and you were disconnected and underway.

During that time he could have written half a dozen speeding tickets. . . .
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My neighbor used to tow a stacker with his CC. He is in the truck manufacturing business and added a hitch capable of 30,000 pounds to his MH. Talk about BEEF! He is into everything and money is no object. He decided to sell his stacker after a couple of his friends suffered cracked frames (these were high end coaches). He told me that with a triple axle trailer and the weights he was carrying, it was quite an adventure at times on rough roads; especially with dips.

Just info, but no personal experience.
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Agree - any good welder worth his salt can build a hitch to haul almost anything. You have just moved the weak point to in front of the hitch. Unless you upgrade the frame, axles, engine, and transmission . . . . . there will likely be trouble.

Chassis manufacturer puts a limit on the drawbar they do so for a reason. Their engineering says that is the max safety for the components.
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Agree - any good welder worth his salt can build a hitch to haul almost anything. You have just moved the weak point to in front of the hitch. Unless you upgrade the frame, axles, engine, and transmission . . . . . there will likely be trouble.
That is exactly why most racers moved away from DPs and went to the truck conversions to haul the heavy triple axle stackers big miles.
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Not sure how CA works but in my jurisdiction there are separate responsibilities for enforcement. We have traffic enforcement which is under the Solicitor General and Commercial Vehicle Enforcement which is under the DOT.

While both are able to write tickets in the others jurisdiction I don't think they are set up specifically to do that. The traffic enforcement may not have tapes and portable scales while the Commercial Vehicle Enforcement may not have radar guns.

You also may have been lucky that day. If he would have measured you and written you up he would have had to stay until a tow truck had been summoned and you were disconnected and underway.

During that time he could have written half a dozen speeding tickets. . . .
No tow truck. I would disconnect. unload my truck from the trailer and haul the trailer down the road a bit then hook back up. I think people over think this stuff. I have a friend that is a state patrol. He said they could care less about non commercial vehicles.
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My neighbor used to tow a stacker with his CC. He is in the truck manufacturing business and added a hitch capable of 30,000 pounds to his MH. Talk about BEEF! He is into everything and money is no object. He decided to sell his stacker after a couple of his friends suffered cracked frames (these were high end coaches). He told me that with a triple axle trailer and the weights he was carrying, it was quite an adventure at times on rough roads; especially with dips.

Just info, but no personal experience.
That is why I run a trailer toad. The tonque weight is what causes the stress cracks. I run zero tonque weight
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No tow truck. I would disconnect. unload my truck from the trailer and haul the trailer down the road a bit then hook back up. I think people over think this stuff. I have a friend that is a state patrol. He said they could care less about non commercial vehicles.
That is what we were planning. As long as DW will drive the truck. Then as long as the GCVW and GVW of your truck will handle the trailer.

Would not do to be written up for an over length to hook up the truck and have the same fellow write you up for over weight.

Our SUV is rated for 7200 lbs trailer. The Haul Mark we were originally looking at had a curb weight of 12,500 (from manufacturer) plus toys (3000 calc and est).
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That is why I run a trailer toad. The tonque weight is what causes the stress cracks. I run zero tonque weight
I am not convinced that a toad will eliminate all of the issues. I have played with trailers over the years and been able to adjust the tongue weight of the trailer by shifting the load. A toad would be good if you had an unbalanced load that would not allow you to achieve the recommended tongue weights. The trucking industry has used jeeps and boosters for many years in order to increase capacity to carry over size loads.

I checked out the Trailer Toad website and they say in the FAQ that the toad does not change the GCVW of the tow vehicle, it is a weight management system that is better than conventional weight distribution hitch and prevents damage to your coach.

If you are able to easily stay within the tongue weight recommended by the manufacturers specifications there should be no reason to have a toad.
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That is what we were planning. As long as DW will drive the truck. Then as long as the GCVW and GVW of your truck will handle the trailer.

Would not do to be written up for an over length to hook up the truck and have the same fellow write you up for over weight.

Our SUV is rated for 7200 lbs trailer. The Haul Mark we were originally looking at had a curb weight of 12,500 (from manufacturer) plus toys (3000 calc and est).
I would like to add that the 3000 is what is left in the trailer after we take the SUV out.
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My tongue weight is 1900 lbs which is a little more than I am comfortable with. It tows so much nicer with the toad. The toad does not change the GCVW but does put much less load on the frame and hitch.
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