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07-22-2015, 03:31 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: St. Charles, MO
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Supplemental Braking AFO vs Invisibrake vs US Gear
My husband and I have become disenchanted with the Brake Buddy recommended by our RV dealer because of recurrent false braking of the towed vehicle.
We are in the market for a smarter supplemental braking system and have narrowed our choices to SMI's Air Force One, Roadmaster's Invisibrake, and US Gear's Unified Tow Brake. My husband is disabled and will not be doing the install, and there are very few local installers for the US Gear product, so that may be ruled out by necessity.
Any comments or suggestions on these 3 products? Any one with personal experience with these 3 products pro or con? We have a 2015 Fleetwood Expedition DP and will be towing a 2003 GMC Sierra 2500 HD pickup.
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BonnieV. St Charles, MO
2015 Fleetwood Expedition 38k TOADS: 2017 GMC Acadia Denali 2018 Ford Expedition Platinum Max
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07-22-2015, 05:34 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,579
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My buddy and I both went through the same as you--used the Brake Buddy boxes (ours were sold by BlueOx, so called Partiot), became dissatisfied with them, and then upgraded. He chose the AFO that taps into his DP air brakes, and I chose the M&G product that also uses DP air brake lines.
Having seen exactly how these two systems work, I would highly recommend either of them. You didn't mention the M&G in your post, so if you haven't discovered that one yet, look it up. I love that system and would repeat the install if I had it to do over again. I believe my buddy would use the M&G if it were possible for his toad too, but it is not, and he is also very happy with his AFO. He liked it enough to have it installed on a second car so that they can choose which to tow for a given trip.
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2013 Fleetwood Discovery 40G, Cummins ISL,Freightliner Chassis, Allison 3000.
2017 Ford F150 Lariat toad w/
Blue Ox Aventa tow bar and M&G Braking System
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07-22-2015, 05:39 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Ambler, PA
Posts: 2,853
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I can tell you first-hand that the AFO works and really decreases stopping distances over not having toad brakes. In fact, it feels like I can stop faster with the toad connected than without it. I have also pulled some large box trailers with electric brakes and they don't compare to the seamless operation of the AFO.
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07-22-2015, 06:11 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 19,417
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We have been pleased with our Air Force 1 also. It is easy to use once installed. Just plug in the air line, break away cable and the cable for the lights and your are ready to go. Nothing to do inside for the brakes.
Steve
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2002 Newmar Mountain Aire 4095
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07-22-2015, 07:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 337
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Nothing but trouble with Invisibrake . Had it removed.
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07-22-2015, 08:17 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 8,149
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I have has US Gear since 2003 and it works well. The only downside is a rather lengthy initial installation. After that it works well and is dead simple. All you do when hooking up is hook up your normal electrical cable between the coach and the towed vehicle, and attach a breakaway cable between the two. Done. When unhooking, reverse the above.
The USGear comes with the breakaway feature which will bring your car to a stop if it ever breaks loose. It also includes a charge line that keeps your car's battery charged while towing, using power from the coach alternator. (No more dead batteries when towing.)
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Marc and Jill, Wellington FL
2013 Entegra Anthem 44SL
2018 Lincoln MKX
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07-23-2015, 12:18 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 273
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I have recently has an invisibrake installed and it has worked great so far. Probably about 1200-1500 towed miles.
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07-23-2015, 12:49 AM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 37,725
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We use the RoadMaster BrakeMaster 9160 with our rig although since getting the Magna and finding out the DW has liver cancer I haven't taken the time to hook it up. Need to do it although the Magna has all wheel air disk and three stage engine brake and I really don't notice the need for more.
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Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '21 Jeep JLU Rubicon Ecodiesel
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07-23-2015, 05:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Apex, NC
Posts: 1,857
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AF1 here. Very happy with it. I had a hard time finding someone to install it. RV dealers only want to install the boxes that sit on the floor. I finally talked to my local auto mechanic. He said "no problem". He did it all for <$400. I looked at the M&G but it wouldn't work on a Saturn Vue.
We had been using a Roadmaster Even Brake, but due to my shoulder problems I couldn't put it on the brake pedal anymore. Then my angel got where she was unable to do it. We are extremely happy with the AF1.
I got my AF1 for a very good price from dyersonline.com.
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2010 Winnebago Journey Express 34Y
2010 Freightliner XCS (mfd 9/'09)
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07-26-2015, 02:06 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,179
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AirForceOne here. Installed late 2006, and over 55,000 miles with absolutely no issues. Wouldn't even think of switching back to any of the others (have had most of them in the past).
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07-29-2015, 10:26 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Satsop WA
Posts: 1,619
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AF1 here also. Just love it.
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07-30-2015, 09:26 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 419
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I also went from a EvenBrake to an AF1.
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07-31-2015, 05:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,816
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We have the US Gear and I'm very happy with it.
Their newest model uses a standard trailer brake controller, so it will operate any trailer with electric brakes as well.
I have yet to meet anybody with AFO that is unhappy with.
You can't go wrong with either.
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2011 MVP Tahoe 230 QB on Ford E350 Chassis
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07-31-2015, 05:20 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 808
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Previously had M&G and would have used it again however it would not fit in my current tow vehicle. Switched to AFO and am extremely happy with it. Like the M&G, the AFO is very simple to set up and use. Highly recommend either one
Hope this helps, Brian
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Hamilton & Zuri - Rhodesian Ridgebacks
2016 Anthem 44L / HWH Active Air / RF Mogul
2024 RAM Limited FMCA #420209
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