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Old 05-25-2007, 05:57 AM   #1
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Okay, here's an idea for the ultimate toad ---

How about an electric vehicle, or even a hybrid, which gets its batteries charged as it gets towed along behind the motorhome? Could even refine this idea to charge the toad only when the motorhome is coasting down hill.

Huh? Great idea?? Maybe I should patent the idea!

Patent Pending. 05.25.2007
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Okay, here's an idea for the ultimate toad ---

How about an electric vehicle, or even a hybrid, which gets its batteries charged as it gets towed along behind the motorhome? Could even refine this idea to charge the toad only when the motorhome is coasting down hill.

Huh? Great idea?? Maybe I should patent the idea!

Patent Pending. 05.25.2007
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Old 05-26-2007, 07:30 AM   #3
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Warren, we have been "thinking" about hybrids. From what I have read none are readily towable; however, we already tow a 20' enclosed cargo trailer with my wife's RAV4 inside.

For other reasons I will be "electrifying" the trailer with 110v from the coach when we viist our son in 3 weeks. There is a 110v outlet in a mid-coach basement compartment that I am planning on tapping into and run it back to the rear of the coach. The trailer will get outlets mounted inside of the trailer nose and then plug into the rear of the coach via outdoor cable and a waterproof outlet on the coach.

When parked the trailer will get its 110v via shore power through the coach and when on the road the power will come through the existing 2000w coach inverter. If we do get a hybrid we will already be set up for on the road charging.

I suspect that neither you nor I will be the first ones thinking of this application which incidentally should only cost less than $50 for our full trailer electrification, Ken,'04DSDP...
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Old 05-27-2007, 12:15 PM   #4
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I think the Ford Escape/Mercury Mariner hybrids are approved for 4-down towing...
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Old 05-28-2007, 04:27 PM   #5
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It would be interesting to find out if any one is pulling any type of Hybrid now. Some one is always telling you can't do something, but there are those that do it anyway and succeed.
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I'm pretty sure the Saturn Vue Hybrid is also approved for towing 4-down.
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Old 05-29-2007, 12:48 PM   #7
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All of the electric hybrids that I am familiar with, with the exception of a make or two in California--the extremely new plug in hybrids, utilize regenerative braking to re-charge their high voltage systems.

This means, in layman's terms, that when you apply the brakes on your hybrid, the energy produced by that sends it back to the HV (high voltage) battery.

As far as towing a hybrid?? Ya got me! But it does make me wonder if everytime that you brake the tow vehicle, would it relay HV back to the HV battery?
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Old 06-16-2007, 05:10 PM   #8
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The 07 Vue Hybrid is approved for towing 4 down.I purchased one last month and set it up for towing using my old roadmaster towbar. traded in a 2000 Cavalier that I had towed for 60000 miles. I have only towed the Hybrid 400 miles so far but it tows about the same as the cavalier. I added an ignition kill switch which wasn't required on the cavalier.
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Keep in mind the term hybrid means "any combination of two modes of propuslion". The only current hybrids which are capable of propulsion by electric only, gas only or both are the Toyota Prius, Honda Civic and the '08 Ford Escape. All the others are primarly gas driven with electric assist.

Likewise, only the Prius, Civic, old Honda Insight, and '08 Escape have regenerative braking to charge the batteries. Everything else relies on the gas engine as the only means to keep the batteries charged.

Toyota says the Prius is not 4 wheel towable. Same for Civic. While the '05-'07 Escape Hybrid is 4 wheel towable I suspect with the drivtrain changes for '08 that it won't be.

Also, no current hybrids have the ability to be recharged from a 110v outlet as they come from the OEM. I am told there is a company in California which will convert a Prius so it can be recharged from 110v. However, they replace the Toyota batteries (which in turn nullifies the warranty) and it costs something like $5K.
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True the Vue is not a true Hybrid, But it definetly has regenerative braking. There was a news release a few days ago that the 09 Vue would be a true Hybrid, plug in to recharge and get 70 mpg. The 07 Vue gets very good mpg. and the company Ads say it is the best mpg of any SUV.
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All I know is the 07 Vue Green-Line AWD I looked at sure didn't have regenerative braking on it or listed in the specs. However, the Aura Green-Line does.

I was wondering why the '08 Vues (heavier, restyled) didn't include the hybrid.
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I think I bought my vue 6 months to soon. The reason the O8 Hybrid vue is not on the Saturn site is because it won't be out till late in the 3rd quarter. If you google 2008 Saturn Vue Hybrid you will see all the details. It will be available with V-6 and Gm's 2 mode Hybrid system. It's mileage is supposed to be 45% better than the standard Vue.
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Dan,

Thanks for the search suggestion.

In reading the articles that came up for the next generation Vue hybrid there were links to additional articles about the plug-in recharge funcitonality you mentioned previously. Apparently it the announcment in in November 2006 was just about its development. The article specifically said its not part of the initial 2-mode hybrid option.
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