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Old 08-09-2009, 09:55 PM   #15
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My thanks to all for your comments and input. I can see there are differing views but it does depend on what your specific situation is. I guess my uneducated opinion is that I prefer not to alter our vehicles and the dolly might give us the option not to do that. But, what do I know. I am a newbie and looking forward to the road and I envy you who have been at it for a while.

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Old 08-09-2009, 10:03 PM   #16
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I hate that I'm so ordinary. I do however tow four down,its just that two wheels rest on a tow dolly.

I'm convinced that those that choose to tow four down and spend thousands of dollars to do so have to justify it someway.

And to those that can hook up in less than three minutes...I've got a job for you in the nascar pits. But you've got to have brakes to stop.

Got 'em!
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:45 AM   #17
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About 9 mos ago, I was going through the same decision process as you are now. Both cars, 03 Hyundai Elantra and 06 Ford Expedition, were unsuitable for 4 down towing without modifications. My solution was to go with a tow dolly. Found a used one with electric brakes. Since my previous life using travel trailer gave me a brake controller, I used that. Using a tow dolly can have frustrations, especially at first. Have towed the Hyundai about 8,000 miles and only problems have been. Nervous first few time hooking up and very slow and meticulous. Still very meticulous about checking all connections and lights, but can hook/unhook in a few minutes (about the same time as fellow 4 downers). When on a back in site that has slopes, dollly is sometimes a pain to roll up a grade into position (am a few mos shy of 70, so strength is not what it used to be). Rallys sometime require tow dolly storage to be at a location other than immediate campsite. For the price I paid for my Master Tow dolly, I have gained a lot of experience and do not regret delaying the rush to modify my vehicles.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:36 PM   #18
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Dolly here , $1140 out the door with brakes ...
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:59 AM   #19
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Four down----yes I can hook up and be gone in three minutes;
Have pulled my toad over 100,000 trouble free miles; I wouldn't take a dolly if you gave it to me; I"ve seen to many people struggling with a dolly.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:37 AM   #20
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Another vote for four down. I, too can hook up in be gone in 3 minutes, complete with brake controller hookup (SMI Stay-in-Play, just needs the lights connected and the power switch turned on).

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Old 08-18-2009, 12:42 PM   #21
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I have been using a Roadmaster Tow Doly with Electric brakes for better than 4 years and wouldn't tow any other way. I can drive on it with wheels turned or straight and do NOT have a problem tying down wheels. I can drive on and connect faster than a person with four down but what has speed to do with it, I'm retired.
One thing I did add was a 3rd wheel to it so that if I have to push it behind me or alongside me in a backin site. I usually ask for a pull thru site and then can then leave it hooked up however I disconnect the trailer plug so no draw on battery while sitting as controller does draw power. If I get a back site I also sometimes push it to the rear of RV and then after getting RV setup I reconnect it to it.
I also like the Roadmaster Tow Dolly as the whels on it follow the rear wheels of RV when they steer. It also has an adjusatable bed that would fit your mini van just fine. They are sold at Camping World or contact Roadmaster direct.

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Old 08-18-2009, 12:59 PM   #22
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Dolly for me also. I own 3 cars, none of which are towable 4 down. After looking at the cost to trade or modify, I chose the dolly/wbrakes. Now I just load up whichever car is in back and hit the road.
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Another vote for four down. I, too can hook up in be gone in 3 minutes, complete with brake controller hookup (SMI Stay-in-Play, just needs the lights connected and the power switch turned on).

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Can be done in 45 seconds when in a hurry......(long story to follow)

Leaving Caddo Lake state park
Hooked up the TOAD before leaving the park (error in thinking #1)
Right turn from park onto 2lane blacktop with ditch on opposing side
Swung out too far to make the corner blocking both lanes of traffic (error in thinking #2)
RAN back and unhooked the TOAD..DW on Easybrake & I on towbar (45 seconds)
CLeared the road (total elapsed time from start to finish 75 seconds, but SEEMED like an hour)
Drove both MoHo & TAOD to suitable location to re-hook

Both I and DW are READY to be on a Pro Racing Pit Crew!
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:39 PM   #24
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I use both, dolly when towing Mini, tow bar when towing 4WD pick-up. Six of one, half a dozen of another, both take about the same about of time to hook up/Load, disconnect/unload especially when you consider auxillary braking device. Dolly folds up, goes behind MH when parked.

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This is a small advantage to having a dolly. You can also use it for towing a car with your truck. When I worked out of town I could of used it to tow our car instead of renting from U-Haul.
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And how much time does this save????
Well.. dolly tow you have two steps

First, hook up dolly to motor home

Then put car on dolly, strap it down, hook it up and do not forget to stop and ispect the tie downs later.

It takes me about as long to hook up as it does to hook up the dolly.. And.. it is physically EASIER (I have dolly towed (rented dolly) in the past)

So..... I'd say it's 100% of the time it takes to put the car on teh dolly and secure it. How long that is. I don't know, because your time to dolly the car will be different than mine, or Joe's, Or Pete's, Or Sam's. but on a multi-hook up trip it can easily add up to hours.

And if you let the coach idle while you hook up (Common practice) that adds up to DOLLARS at the fuel pump.
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I also now have a Town and Country minivan with a Remco pump. Great for towing in cool weather but I have problems with the pump in hot weather on long hauls.
RVthere- I am searching out a tow bar and brake solution for our 2009 T&C minivan. What do you have for your tow bar?
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Old 09-12-2009, 11:07 AM   #28
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RVthere... That is why I went with the Axle lock on my Mini Van, "I have problems with the pump..." I don't.. no pump, no problems, Just proven technology that has a mean time between failure of "I won't live that long" (And I'm being optimistic as to how long I'll live when I say that).

Brakes: There are many.. I just read a post from someone who has one of the box-brake systems, This is a system where you wrestle a box into your driver's seat, and extend the arm so it pushes the pedal.. He spok of the hassles of wrangling this hunk of junk in and out and had little nice to say about it.. (Nor do I, Same reasons)
He spoke of how on multi-day trips it kills the towed battery.

I have the US-Gear Unified Brake Decelareator

ALl I need to do to use it is.. Plug in a cable.. In fact when I get around to it I'll covnert my light cable from flat-4 to round 7 and then all I'll need to do is plug in that one cable.

To return to "Drive the car" status.. Unplug

Nothing to wrangle

As for the battery... Well the cable has 2 wires,, One is the standard electric brake control wire.. The other is connected to the batteries via 40 amp circuit breakers (Towed charge system)

So, I arrive where I"m going with a full battery on the towed.


Another good system that will not kill your towed battery is the M&G system. If you have air brakes.. Or the AirForce system

These are both air over hydraulic.. I like M$G's design a bit better as it, like the US-Gear, is 100% "Transparant" (Just plug in and unplug)

Nothing to position inside the car... However it will not fit my towed.. And I don't have air brakes,, And the US-Gear system gives me much more control.
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