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Old 07-16-2012, 12:59 PM   #1
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Toad brake controller or not? Need wisdom

Drviing 2000 Bounder 39z diesel pusher. Towing capacity 5000lbs with 500lbs tongue weight. Still looking for the "right" toad and started wondering about braking.

We are currently shopping and are thinking Wrangler 2000 vintage, auto, 2 door and I just began to wonder if I will need some type of brake setup to tow in a safe manner?

Anyone know the answer?

Toads seem to be hard to find with base plates, tow bars and brake controllers all included.

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If you go into any state that requires brakes on a toad then you are required to have them also. There is no reciprocity on vehicle safety equipment. What your home state requires has no bearing on what other state's laws require.

I'm sure someone will post a link to charts they think pertains to toad towing but 99% of them are wrong when it comes to towing a motorized vehicle with another motorized vehicle.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:08 PM   #3
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Some states require a towed load as low as 1500# have brakes installed, Some chassis manufactures have similar limits.

The laws of physics out weigh the laws by the states. If you are trying to stop more weight, you need more brakes and more tires on the ground.

A few RV sites will have a dinghy for sale show up that is set up for towing.

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Here are the state laws.
http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm
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I have towed our 2000 Wrangler both before and after adding a Roadmaster Even Brake system. The extra braking system really makes a positive difference in stopping distance. While I hope to never need to panic brake, I am glad to have that extra braking capacity. I would recommend it.
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The laws of physics out weigh the laws by the states. If you are trying to stop more weight, you need more brakes and more tires on the ground.

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I always wondered how far a 4000 lb. vehicle going 60 MPH in neutral would travel if it ever came unhooked from the towing vehicle, or how much damage would be done to the rear of the MH if the tow bar came off and just safety cables stayed connected and I had to stop the toad with the MH from 60 MPH. Bought and use a Brake Buddy and gave up wondering
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looks like I will keep looking for a "complete" toad!
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"I always wondered how far a 4000 lb. vehicle going 60 MPH in neutral would travel if it ever came unhooked from the towing vehicle ... "

Just the thought! Probably wouldn't be far - most road sides have trees and ditches. Not to mention swamps and standing water in the southern part of our state.
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Do you need a brake controller (electronic box designed to control the brakes) no.

Do you need a braking system: (Some way of applying the brakes on the towed when stopping) YES.

How can you have the 2nd without the 1st: Ready Brute tow bar with Ready Brake system.

Now myself, I kind of like the US-Gear unified brake decelerator due to the amount of control it gives me over the towed brakes.. But I will likely go with the Ready Brake on my next towed. It is a surge brake system, NO electronics, at all.

But you do need brakes.

NOT having a brakign system for your towed is reckless, and that does not vary from state to state. It can make the traffic ticket look like chicken feed too. Just ask OJ.
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Craigslist Brake Buddy here, on my 05' Jeep Rubi (lifted, armored, and heavy...).
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I have towed our 2000 Wrangler both before and after adding a Roadmaster Even Brake system. The extra braking system really makes a positive difference in stopping distance. While I hope to never need to panic brake, I am glad to have that extra braking capacity. I would recommend it.
I might add that the Roadmaster Even Brake unit was a ebay purchase used. I rcvd all pieces and manuals plus a break away switch. My theory was that if someone invests that much in a safety feature and has invested in an expensive MH, they are going to take care of it. Don't be afraid of used, just steer clear of re-sellers that know no history of a unit or how it should be used.
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I fitted an Invisibrake system to our Wrangler last year and can highly recommend it. Literally out of sight, this fit and forget device is absolutely brilliant.
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