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Old 06-04-2014, 11:35 PM   #15
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You know, I keep reading/hearing of people saying they've heard/seen where diodes have failed.....but I have never heard of anyone first hand who have said "they" have had a problem with them.

In my case, I've had three toads and I've used diodes on each of them without one failure of any type.

The wireless sounds interesting...

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Roger that. I too have only "read" of such diode failures, "supposedly" from friends, acquaintance's or, ???. We've been towing for well over 25 years with 11 different toads. One Toyota pickup, three CJ Jeeps, two YJ Jeeps, two TJ jeeps, one 2011 Honda CRV and, our present toad, an '11 GMC Sierra 1500 Extended Cab, 4x4 and, each and every one of them, I setup with the use of the stock tail lights and the use of Radio Shack diodes.

Several thousand miles, all those toads, and not ONE diode failure. Every one of those was incredibly easy to setup. I've stated this a zillion times before, everyone's got to choose what method they like or, will work for them. I like my tail lights on my toad, to act and work the same exact way when towing it, as they do when driving it.

The only thing one has to take into account now is, the recent change in the type of wiring that many toads have changed to. The system is called either "multi-plexing" or, "CAN-BUSS" wiring. That style of wiring can play he.. with the use of diodes and, tying into the factory wiring.
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:34 AM   #16
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Please Post a Pic of that support.

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My husband welted a support that fits in the hitch of our Envoy and the magnetic tow truck strip fits on top. When it is not in use the support is removed from the hitch.
Would like to see a picture of that support. I was thinking of having a friend make up some kind of support like that. Thanks
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:38 AM   #17
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I've seen the wireless light bars that tow truck drivers use and they are pretty nice, but they are fairly large, heavy and obviously need to be recharged. I don't how expensive they are, but from the looks of them probably not cheap.
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:16 AM   #18
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Diodes all the way. 4 different Toad, 4 different sets of self-installed diodes and never a failure. In fact I've never met anyone who has had a failure with diodes, except for one person who hat a mouse/rat chew through their electrical lines, but that's not really a diode failure.

Diodes make it just a simple plug and play operation and off you go. BTW, the power for the lights come from the MH not your car's battery as other have suggested when using diodes. Also if you need to trouble shoot later on and can't figure out how to use a multimeter to check the diodes just isolate them out of the system or jump them to see if there is a problem. But to be honest once you install them you will never need to mess with them again.
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I did have a diode fail in my Dodge Durango setup to tow a boat. However, I have used diodes in 3 toads without failure. I get mine at etrailer.com.
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This is my husband's support for the tow truck light. The magnet attaches to a horizontal flat piece and is easily removed. Yes, it is expensive, but between the high rear lights on our Holiday Rambler and these lights you can't say you didn't see us stop!!!
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This is my husband's support for the tow truck light. The magnet attaches to a horizontal flat piece and is easily removed. Yes, it is expensive, but between the high rear lights on our Holiday Rambler and these lights you can't say you didn't see us stop!!!
Thank you for posting the pic. Your husband did a nice job making this support. This is what I have been looking for. I am going to show a friend this pic and have him make me one.
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Toad Brake, turn and tail lights

I just bought my first toad and it has the additional bulbs installed. I plugged in to my neighbor's truck with tow hitch to test the tail lights. All good except one turn/brake filament is burned out. Not a problem, just a couple of screws and twist out the old bulb. Right? Not so fast. In the YouTube installation videos, where they glue the new socket into the new hole, I always assumed that the socket had a twist-to-remove feature. Not so in this case. I will have to cut through the goop to get to the bulb.

Additionally, the new bulbs have a different base from the factory bulbs. This means two types of spares and two tests to see if the turn/brake/running bulbs are good. While I am in there anyway, it will be just as fast to install diodes and ignore the added bulbs. Bought some 6 Amp Blue Ox Diodes on Amazon.

I suspect that the additional bulb method is preferred by some shops because it limits their liability for a technician messing up the vehicle's wiring. This would probably be my preference too if I did not know the technician or the shop's reputation for this kind of work. One recommendation to make is that they shake out the plastic shavings from the lens assembly before installing the new bulb. Ask me why.

Another recommendation is to verify that the new bulbs are not touching anything such as the plastic lens or the glass of the other bulb. I noticed more than one melting lens while looking at used toads.
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Toad Brake, turn and tail lights

One additional recommendation for added bulbs. Many cars today have clear lenses with red bulbs or inner red/amber lenses. The bulbs that come with the kits are clear. If the installer chooses to put the new bulb in the clear lens compartment, he must swap the bulbs for red or amber tinted ones. Seems obvious, but I saw one car where this was not done, producing white lights for turn, brake, and running.
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Also retired law enforcement here. I use the cheap magnetic lights and they work fine. I would probably go with a more permanent install if I was a full timer. I run the wires along the inside of the door gasket on the toad. Takes a few minutes to get everything in place but I am not in a hurry
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I prefer Diva51 husbands approach. So I went to camping world and purchased a 'flag pole' hitch holder. Have a shop lined up to cut a alum pipe sized to slide down into the flag pole holder, maybe 2 inches longer than the slot it is going into. Then they will weld a flat plate on top. I will then place my magnet towing lights on that, run the cord over the roof rails and plug into the motorhome. Simple, easy, no need to tamper with the toad light system.
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I prefer Diva51 husbands approach. So I went to camping world and purchased a 'flag pole' hitch holder. Have a shop lined up to cut a alum pipe sized to slide down into the flag pole holder, maybe 2 inches longer than the slot it is going into. Then they will weld a flat plate on top. I will then place my magnet towing lights on that, run the cord over the roof rails and plug into the motorhome. Simple, easy, no need to tamper with the toad light system.

Just curious. Why not simply stick the lights to the roof and be done with it? Seems like a lot of fabricating and you eliminate the possibility of putting a bike rack in the hitch.
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Greetings:

I am about a week away from having the base plate and lights installed on my 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee toad. I have been reading the forum to learn about toad lights. My RV mechanic, who I trust and have used for years with trailers, likes the method of adding a socket and hardwiring the added socket for use with the coaches 7pin. He is not a fan of diodes due to failures that confuse your ability to figure out why the lights have stopped working, especially on the road.

If he cant add a socket to my jeeps tail lights, he is a fan of "portable lights". I have read a lot on this forum but I would appreciate hearing from some folks with experience before I give the go-ahead. I am a retiring police officer and am more concerned with safety and properly working lights. We are living in an apartment right now so I do not have the tools or space to complete this job on my own.

Thank you in advance for your time and advise.

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We use a wireless system from Towmate. Same thing used by towing services. Uses 7-pin wireless to rare earth magnet LED lights on trunk of toad. Comes with 12v charger and last 15 hours per charge.

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Magnetic Tow Lights

Husband chose wireless because there are no wires to run. The light comes with a sending unit (radio waves) that plugs into the trailer plug on the back of the MH. The lights have a self contained battery and comes with a charger to plug into the cigarette lighter. It takes 30 seconds to connect. He suggests getting them from AW Direct.
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