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Old 02-19-2014, 07:21 PM   #1
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Question Toad brakes

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Looking for a brake system for my 06 dodge dakota, have looking at smi. comment on that system or any other would be very helpful.

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Old 02-19-2014, 07:33 PM   #2
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I have a Brake Buddy. Works well. But gets old taking it in and out. I have a Ready Brake waiting me to get around to installing it.
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:54 PM   #3
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I will talk about some systems in the generic.

Box in driver's seat (Brake buddy) you have to install it every time you tow (Yes it is easy but every time there is a CHANCE of a goof and there is also a chance you will say "Oh, Forget it, it's only a few miles") Plus you have to stow it when driving the towed.

M&G, if you have air brakes on the tow vehicle, comletly invisible to driver, Hook up is about a second (plug in hose, hook up safety line).

US-Gear Unified brake decelerator.. Small bracket on brake arm visible to driver if he looks. Easy hookup (Electrical cord instead of air line) Supplies Motor home power to towed to keep battery charged. No need to bleed vacuum from booster. Most control over towed brakes of any system out there.

Other installed systems with the exception of next paragraph.. Much like the last paragraph but not as liberal with the controls. Very tight 2nd though.

Ready Brake and Blue ox Auto-Stop surge brake systems.. Major issue is the cable that is on the car rusting and binding. Also easy hookup, uses no electricity, self adjusting, What I'm looking to buy next.
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I have SMI Stay in Play Duo, has worked flawlessly for
4 years over 45,000 miles. Simple and easy to use.
Great support from SMI as well.
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I have SMI Stay in Play Duo, has worked flawlessly for
4 years over 45,000 miles. Simple and easy to use.
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Ready Brake in use here for over three years which includes a trip to Alaska and back. The hardest thing for me on this system was getting the cable adjusted to the correct length. What worked on our level Texas roads was a little to tight for the frost heaves of the ALCAN! I am very pleased with the ease of hookup. One d-ring cable and a four prong electrical connection, all outside. Nothing to do inside the vehicle but put it in neutral and unlock the steering wheel. Plus the price is very reasonable.
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Another vote for ReadyBrake! Low cost, easy to install, not much to go wrong, and very effective! What more could you ask for?

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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when you say you use the ready brake are you referring to the ready brute elite towbar and brake system? Will it work Ok for a diesel pusher when you use the exhaust brake?

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when you say you use the ready brake are you referring to the ready brute elite towbar and brake system? Will it work Ok for a diesel pusher when you use the exhaust brake?

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I was just discussing this same concern with a friend who has a Prevost with a series 60 Detroit. With his strong engine compression brake I could see the problem with a surge brake on a toad compared to a weaker exhaust brake like on my Cat 3126 or the small Cummins.
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I was just discussing this same concern with a friend who has a Prevost with a series 60 Detroit. With his strong engine compression brake I could see the problem with a surge brake on a toad compared to a weaker exhaust brake like on my Cat 3126 or the small Cummins.
The surge brake is not connected to DP brake pedal. It works by the slowing of the RV.
It works just fine with DP using surge brake. I have one.
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The surge brake is not connected to DP brake pedal. It works by the slowing of the RV.
It works just fine with DP using surge brake. I have one.
I guess I didn't explain myself enough. I understand that a surge brake applies itself as the toad or trailer surges against the Dp when the DP brakes are applied. My boat trailer has surge brakes and they work very well.
What I was wondering in my last post was whether or not a tow bar with surge brake would activate the toad brakes if you had a strong engine brake in your DP like on a Detroit or ISX.
Under full engine braking on long steep down grades could theoretically be like riding your toad brake peddle.
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I guess I didn't explain myself enough. I understand that a surge brake applies itself as the toad or trailer surges against the Dp when the DP brakes are applied. My boat trailer has surge brakes and they work very well.
What I was wondering in my last post was whether or not a tow bar with surge brake would activate the toad brakes if you had a strong engine brake in your DP like on a Detroit or ISX.
Under full engine braking on long steep down grades could theoretically be like riding your toad brake peddle.
Yes, theoretically it could, my light has been on going down very steep grades just using a engine brake. But, seriously, how often does that happen? Once the speed moderates, the light, usually goes out. It would be no different than a gasser, pumping brakes down a grade. The Surge brake would stay on just from momentum. The spring inside the surge mechanism does push back.
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Good explanation. Thanks.

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